Marner: Keep or Walk Poll

[ashs]

If they bring him back at a good price split up the 3. Mathews line, Nylander line and Marner (maybe sign dvo for him). Build 3 solid lines which would be a nightmare for other teams and create an identity.

 

[LeafEgo]

If they bring him back at a good price split up the 3. Mathews line, Nylander line and Marner (maybe sign dvo for him). Build 3 solid lines which would be a nightmare for other teams and create an identity.

Imagine you owned this team, and it was your money, and your people came to you with:

'Ok, get this. Now, it's going to cost you $100M (irreversible unfortunately), but we could also try splitting the amigos and give Marner his own line. That might just work'.

I think my head would explode

 

[GQS]

I'm not saying that letting Tavares go is wrong, far from it, but what would you do to fill a center void this offseason? We already lack depth in that position and losing Tavares doesn't help that. We at least need to pretend to compete. So I'd be interested to hear what you and others have in mind there.

I'm in favor of keeping Tavares as long as the price is right. Heck it would be great if he could pull a Giordano and do the Leafs a big favor and sign dirt cheap. Something like 3 million x 3 years or something along those lines. At the time when the Leafs signed him it was at or even slightly above market value, so maybe he has it in him to sign for abit cheaper than what he could get as a free agent or the maximum that he could get from the Leafs nearing the end of his career if he really wants to stay.

The thing that people were worried about most when he signed was how he would perform after the first few years of his contract and how the Leafs would potentially need to find a way to bury or trade his contract if he declined in the last few years. As it turned out he's stayed playing at a high level and has been a consistent 30ish goal almost point per game player for his whole contract.

If he can stay healthy and in shape, there's no reason why he can't remain playing well for a few more years like Perry has done. Tavares certainly looks like the kind of guy that stays in shape and prepares for each season properly and his 7 years of consistent play shows it.

 

[Leaffan197703]

That was good old Kyle dubas another great hire by Brendan shanahan

If we were a small market team where play-off revenue was tantamount then you would be happy with the status quo. In Toronto the goal is always to win the Stanley Cup and while this team is very good it is not a cup winning team. We have limited options for improving the team and the biggest one is the freed up cap space. Marner doesn't really play like a Berube system player so is the most logical subtraction. Who gives an RFA a NMC clause in the last year of their contract that walks them to UFA status?

 

[Leaffan197703]

What good would happen if you bring the same band back. When the game gets tight checking the core disappears as fast as Thanos snap

 

[KAWAIlllI]

This is the face of someone who cares. Don't let the organization or media sway u. Shanny is the one the needs to go.
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That’s a guy knowing his worth is plummeting, nothing else

 

[thewave]

If they bring him back at a good price split up the 3. Mathews line, Nylander line and Marner (maybe sign dvo for him). Build 3 solid lines which would be a nightmare for other teams and create an identity.

I think the majority are tired of his tantrums, not winning, not elevating in elimination games etc. I don't want him skating between blue lines and perching high up in the perimeter and calling it not being a passenger.

He expects everyone to do the hard work while he makes a pass. It's actually hilarious that his teammates never called him out directly like McDavid.

 

[Racer88]

Imagine you owned this team, and it was your money, and your people came to you with:

'Ok, get this. Now, it's going to cost you $100M (irreversible unfortunately), but we could also try splitting the amigos and give Marner his own line. That might just work'.

I think my head would explode

In that scenario I would fire all the morons who came to me with that idea

 

[ToneDog]

The time to move Marner was after the Montreal series or before his NMC kicked in. At that time I used words like "get rid of the little puke" or worse. Do you really think we're going to replace a 100pt player with two 50pt players that have the same impact he does during the regular season? The key is what does he want...anything over 12.5 is a no go for me because it leaves you nothing to add pieces to the other lines that are needed.

As much as we need change to the core 5, the ones that should go are Tavares and Rielly. Rielly offers nothing in the regular season anymore and in the playoffs he's been a liability defensively on a level not seen since Gardner. With the rise in cap and the $20M savings on the these two, we should fill some of our needs.

You want to pay a playoff no show more (3 SOG in last 5 games!!) than $13.5m x 8 so you can make the playoffs and watch them choke in the playoffs for 1 to 8 more years? I thought we are trying to win the SC, not sell jerseys.

 

[ToneDog]

Imagine you owned this team, and it was your money, and your people came to you with:

'Ok, get this. Now, it's going to cost you $100M (irreversible unfortunately), but we could also try splitting the amigos and give Marner his own line. That might just work'.

I think my head would explode

The dummies at MLSEL have already offered him $108m and he refused to negotiate. Anybody think this puke and his ego are now going to accept less, because the Leafs are no longer offering that much, if anything.

 

[ToneDog]

What good would happen if you bring the same band back. When the game gets tight checking the core disappears as fast as Thanos snap

Depends, are you here to sell jerseys or win the Stanley Cup? Luckily Mitch realizes his time is up in Toronto and is walking, saving the geniuses at MLSEL from shooting themselves in the face. Now it is possible that somebody has stepped in and told the Leafs brass that enough is enough and heads are going to roll (great song and you hate to see it).

 

[CabanaBoy5]

You want to pay a playoff no show more (3 SOG in last 5 games!!) than $13.5m x 8 so you can make the playoffs and watch them choke in the playoffs for 1 to 8 more years? I thought we are trying to win the SC, not sell jerseys.

Read my post carefully, I wouldn't pay him more than 12.5M. I would keep him for the regular season and use the 20M from Tavares and Rielly to find 3 forwards who will play the way Marner can't in the playoffs. We were so close to a Stanley Cup final. Watching Carolina play last night, and the room they allow out there, I'm convinced we would have beat them.

 

[Leafs98]

As each day passes I think I want him back. He's a top 15 forward, high end talent. Is there no solution to the playoffs. Put him in the middle with 2 bruisers.

 

[34]

It certainly looks like Mitch has already made his mind up that he is not staying in Toronto.

The fact that he turned down $13.5M AAV is absolutely astronomical. What does he think he is going to get paid? $14-$16M. He is not even worth the $11.5M that Willy is getting.

At this point, it is beneficial for both parties to go their separate ways.

 

[mikeyz]

As each day passes I think I want him back. He's a top 15 forward, high end talent. Is there no solution to the playoffs. Put him in the middle with 2 bruisers.

Unfortunately there is no solution to the playoffs. We have 9 years of data to use now. He simply doesn’t have what it takes.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

As each day passes I think I want him back. He's a top 15 forward, high end talent. Is there no solution to the playoffs. Put him in the middle with 2 bruisers.

They need a different look and he's the easiest to remove.

If this was ever entertained, the only path for him to come back is to take a reasonable deal + the Leafs move other pieces out of the core (Willy + Tavares).

Sadly reasonable and Marner don't go along in contract negotiations so that's a good enough reason to send him packing.

 

[Antropovsky]

His 4 Nations performance is way overrated. He scored a goal in 3 on 3 OT against Sweden and then made a couple nice passes in the final, one of which to the best player in the world. If the final vs USA was a 7 game series, he would have played himself off the Olympic team.

He almost played himself off the 4nation team too. He was on the 1st line to start, but on the 4th line by the 3rd game. That means... games 1 and 2 Canada's coaching staff were not all that impressed. He barely played the 3rd game. So that leaves just game 4. Where he was gmoved up the lineup midway through the 2nd k believe. So 1/2 a game?

people keep saying he had a good 4nations. But he really didnt, he salvaged it, in the last 1/2 of game 4...but if not for those two plays, everyone wouldve said he had a very bad tourny.