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Former Thread : Salary Cap: - Marner Deal Discussion Part IV
Former Thread : Salary Cap: - Marner Deal Discussion Part IV
This is madness!
Only the one he signs which is doubtful that happens.Curious...
What happens if multiple offer sheets come in?
The leafs have to match the highest or lowest one?
Curious...
What happens if multiple offer sheets come in?
The leafs have to match the highest or lowest one?
There is a line somewhere, but we aren't there yet. Not even close.
Marner has been nothing but spectacular during his ELC years for his age. Its mind boggling to me how so many people here are trying to diminish what he's done, and what he will become.
Maybe not, but there are some very close. Without looking very hard:
2009/2010 Penguins (Malkin's first post-ELC year): 21.4/56.8M cap (38%)
Malkin(8.7M)
Crosby(8.7M)
Staal(4M)
2010/2011 Capitals : 22.24 /59.4M cap (37.5%)
Ovechkin(9.54)
Backstrom (6.7)
Semin (6)
2015/2016 Blackhawks: 26.275 /71.4 (37%)
Kane: 10.5
Toews: 10.5
Hossa: 5.275
Curious...
What happens if multiple offer sheets come in?
The leafs have to match the highest or lowest one?
Hmmm... makes me feel a little better actually.
Those teams actually had pretty successful seasons those years as well. So at least there is some precedent at this working.
Curious though (without the motivation to look all of it up) if any those teams above had to trade/let go of any big names to fit under the cap.
This. Is. Not Sparta. Sooooo, mindful of the lack of leverage we have Mr.Marner could you do us a solid and not completely hamstring any future viability for a championship club?
Oh to be able to kick financial constraints right in the middle of the chest and into a bottomless pit.
Neither one of them has a problem.@mavis "5v5 doesn’t trump production it gets considered alongside it when determining offensive value. Marner at 10x8 would be a good deal for both sides."
Nylander signed for 6 years. Not 8.
Using arvidsson, who you and nith both think is worth ~2.75 mil less then nylander, you should have no issue with marner at 10-11 mil for 6 years.
Nith cant seem to face this because he seems to be overly attached to nylander. He's swedish so there is some conflict of interest there. I'm not sure what your problem is though.
Seems like Dubas negotiates scared. Even if that's not true, the perception is there and agents are trying to take him for all he's worth/the Leafs are worth. Now, as July 1st approaches, Dubas is likely regretting the statement about "imperative to sign him by July 1st." Marner and his entourage are possibly going to go beyond July 1st for leverage.
So it comes down to Dubas's humiliation threshold. I would love to see Dubas shock everyone by trading this punk.
Neither one of them has a problem.
Why is Nylander the only benchmark from which to assess Marners worth? There are dozens and dozens of other comparables at play. There is a firmly held precedent for elite wingers coming off their elc. 10-11x6 is FAR above that precedent. Ridiculously far above that precedent. If you're going to counter decades of precedent with just Nylanders contract... well... that seems like a folly.Like I said earlier, I'm just looking for consistency. Something they are lacking.
I personally think 10-11 mil at 6years is to much for marner. But that also 7 x 6 is to much for nylander.
Where as they seem to think the nylander contract is fine but marner needs to sign at 10 x 8.
If you saw the arvidsson part you will know they have no issue with nylander making ~2.75 mil more. Well using the same scale marner is worth 10-11 mil for 6 years.
are you talking a trade involving Marner?Flyers fan coming in peace. If it comes to Dubas having to make a trade, I think the Flyers match up well and here are some of the main pieces I could see being available from the Flyers POV.
Gostisbehere
Oskar Lindblom
Farabee
Frost
11th overall
2020 Picks
Large Group of prospects with NHL futures.
Flyers fan coming in peace. If it comes to Dubas having to make a trade, I think the Flyers match up well and here are some of the main pieces I could see being available from the Flyers POV.
Gostisbehere
Oskar Lindblom
Farabee
Frost
11th overall
2020 Picks
Large Group of prospects with NHL futures.