Value of: Mark Giordano - 50% retained
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Most Leaf fans won't agree but I fully expect the Leafs to be interested and they should be
Super Hans
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Still blows my mind they slapped the 'C' on him with 1 year left in that contract. If they move him at the deadline, that franchise is more Mickey Mouse than Anaheim's Disney on Ice intro and Vegas' knight playoff intro combined.
He's an expiring contract on a nonplayoff team - that is the definition of a trade deadline rental candidate and Seattle would be remiss if they didn't explore every possible way to trade him for a pick and/or a prospect.
One thing Seattle should look at is a two pick return. The first one should be a 2022 second round choice while the second pick should be a conditional 2023 or later choice with the condition being that Gio re-signs with his new team.
Taytro
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It blows your mind that they slapped the C on a guy who was clearly the best leader on the team and was drafted as the captain of another team?
Obviously Seattle thought this season would go differently and they wouldn't be deadline sellers, but they are. So they should trade one of their better assets that should have widespread appeal (partially for his leadership).
It would be more "Mickey mouse" if they let their best asset go for nothing. It's a 6 months old franchise, they don't owe anything to Gio, and I'm sure Gio would prefer to compete for the cup anyway. Come on man, grow up.
bleedgreen
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No no man, there's a fun to pounce on narrative going on here. Anything that can be directed to the expansion draft and the forming of this team must be mocked forthwith.
Super Hans
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It's not about "owing it to Gio". Why name a captain from day one? Is it because they owed him it? Maybe part of Vegas being hot out of the gates was because they went without a captain and everyone carried the load. It's seemed like a dog and pony show since the expansion draft.
I don't fault them for trying to get something out of their best asset, but it's something they should have done 6 months ago with all their assets without the charade of having a 6-month inaugural captain.
The best time to trade him is at the deadline and his captaincy is irrelevant. It's nice they gave him the 'C' but that can be transferred to someone else if/when a trade happens. The key is getting something for him before the lose him for nothing through free agency.
Taytro
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You're looking way too far into something that really doesn't matter. There's no "charade" and no "dog and pony show". They had the chance to take a great leader, made him captain, season didn't work out so they can try to get assets for him to help in the future. Every choice there is a good one. You're just looking for something to criticize and unfortunately, it's not there.
RainyCityHockey
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That was a player's decision.
The team went with all A's.
A couple of days before the season started they held a meeting, turns out the players wanted a captain and named Giordano C.
Though, I'm pretty sure the core group will be alright without Gio going forward and I think I've heard that other teams have traded their C before as well.....
BTW: Six months ago Giordano was a member of the Calgary Flames.
A couple of teams also didn't fully know where they would be closer to the deadline and how their team would mesh/what they need.
Now they know and they also know which of their players can be moved without the team missing a beat in such a deal to make slaries work.
I think seattle has made a lot of mistakes so far, but there’s nothing wrong with trading Giordano for assets.
Taytro
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100%, Seattle has definitely made a lot of mistakes and is fair game for criticism. But the way they handled the captaincy and Gio (if they do trade him), would not be one of those mistakes.
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Seattle made some dumb mistakes, making some deadline trades and using some of that cap space to get some draft capital is a wise choice.
Taytro
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I mean... He's not exactly taking the world by storm right now. I'd say anything is better than nothing for the 38 year old UFA who has 8 points in 23 games and has missed 20% of the season to date. I think he has his strengths still but I would be okay with just about any deal they would make for him.
RainyCityHockey
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He's an expiring contract and most likely won't be back.
So getting something for him is worth a shot and would also certainly be well regarded by other players and agents, which helps with future deals.
So I'm not sure what would be "enough" for him.
The team has also gone 3-1-1 without him on that road trip(+ home game against EDM) about two weeks ago.
I personally think it would be a good thing for Gio and the team as well, as we could get some asset(s), define roles for the near future more clearly and him getting a chance to maybe compete for the cup.
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IWantSakicAsMyGM
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I thought they took out that condition from trading picks? You aren't allowed to make it conditional on the player resigning?
It happened before last season, if im correct, I can't find it in the CBA rules, so maybe it was just an idea
I'd think they should be able to get 2 2nds for Gio, especially if they'll be retaining and/or accepting a bad contract, I'd say if both happens it should be 1st + 3rd, with only retention 2 2nds seem right
