Value of: Marcus Pettersson.

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I know It's still somewhat early, nobody has played 20 games yet but the Pens look done.

I know they are only a couple points out of the 2nd wildcard spot but everybody ahead of them has at least 2 games in hand, and somehow the Rangers have 4.

I think we can put the pens in the seller category.

What can Pittsburgh expect?

It will be interesting to see how Dubas handles this because he's never sold before and before anybody brings up the Guntzel trade that's not selling, yes he brought back some futures, but he also got a top 6 winger back, that is not selling.

This will be the first time in his NHL GM career he TRULY sells.

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[MeinerEiner]

I think we have to be realistic and say that the Pens are one of the weaker teams in the league. They've conceded the most goals, and I'm not sure they'll improve much in the long run.

I think Pettersson is one of the best defensemen available, and he'd be a great addition to any team! There's been a lot of talk about a trade with Vancouver, and I think Pettersson for Pettersson would be a great basis. If there's a bidding war, then I could see a first-round pick in addition. Otherwise I think Pettersson and a second-round pick is realistic.

 

[Zbynek]

He's been lights out the last few years. Super reliable guy who eats top-pairing mins, PKs, plays very responsible defense. He has earned a big contract when he goes UFA end of this year.

His value should be a 1st round pick at the deadline but it's Kyle Dubas (who couldn't even get a 1st for Jake Guentzel) so I expect the return to be something like a 2036 3rd round pick and a failing prospect.

 

[biturbo19]

The fact the Penguins have the aging guys they do, locked in to contract extensions...kind of makes me think the mandate in a Pettersson trade could end up being to get either some "closer futures" or even just a "futures + right now player" to backfill the lineup. Whether that's the right call or not...who knows. But looking at Free Agency and other options potentially on the market, if they just deal Pettersson away for a draft pick or prospect that's probably 3 years away from making an impact...what are they even doing?


But that makes it extremely hard to project what exactly Dubas might think that looks like.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He's been lights out the last few years. Super reliable guy who eats top-pairing mins, PKs, plays very responsible defense. He has earned a big contract when he goes UFA end of this year.

His value should be a 1st round pick at the deadline but it's Kyle Dubas (who couldn't even get a 1st for Jake Guentzel) so I expect the return to be something like a 2036 3rd round pick and a failing prospect.

Alright I know you are being sarcastic but I am legitimately curious would that be allowed if Dubas did swap him for a 2036 1st and 2nd, so 2 picks 11 years from now.

Would that be allowed? You would obviously never do it because that would be ridiculous on both sides you don't know how good or bad your ream will be in 2036.

But would it be allowed? Is there a limit to how far into the future you can trade?

As far as I know there isn't, I think technically It's allowed.

 

[Finnen]

I think we can put the pens in the seller category.

What can Pittsburgh expect?

Detroit trades Erik Gustafsson for Marcus Pettersson, maybe someone at HF wants this or Detroit cannot?

 

[OtherThingsILike]

but it's Kyle Dubas (who couldn't even get a 1st for Jake Guentzel)

Kyle Dubas: 'We are prioritizing NHL-ready or close to NHL-ready prospects in a Jake Guentzel trade.'
Kyle Dubas: receives NHL-ready or close to NHL-ready prospects in a Jake Guentzel trade
Pikachu: I can't believe Kyle Dubas got NHL-ready or close to NHL-ready prospects in the Jake Guentzel trade. It's clearly because he was unable to get a 1st Round draft pick in the Jake Guentzel trade, and totally not because he had no intention of trying to acquire a 1st Round draft pick.

 

[Zbynek]

Kyle Dubas: 'We are prioritizing NHL-ready or close to NHL-ready prospects in a Jake Guentzel trade.'
Kyle Dubas: receives NHL-ready or close to NHL-ready prospects in a Jake Guentzel trade
Pikachu: I can't believe Kyle Dubas got NHL-ready or close to NHL-ready prospects in the Jake Guentzel trade. It's clearly because he was unable to get a 1st Round draft pick in the Jake Guentzel trade, and totally not because he had no intention of trying to acquire a 1st Round draft pick.

Honestly this post confuses me, but regardless, whether Dubas was unable to or simply didn't want to, he fumbled the Jake Guentzel trade.

I'm all ears if you have thoughts on Koivunen's ceiling being anything beyond a bottom sixer at the NHL level.

 

[JAK]

I think we have to be realistic and say that the Pens are one of the weaker teams in the league. They've conceded the most goals, and I'm not sure they'll improve much in the long run.

I think Pettersson is one of the best defensemen available, and he'd be a great addition to any team! There's been a lot of talk about a trade with Vancouver, and I think Pettersson for Pettersson would be a great basis. If there's a bidding war, then I could see a first-round pick in addition. Otherwise I think Pettersson and a second-round pick is realistic.

I'm not sure how it would fit cap wise, might have to add a minor cap hit to make the salaries even.

There is also the considerations that Pettersson joining the new team might have a log jam in his position as well.