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ref19 said:
Don't think so. Decent shot, below average passer. Not the guy to play with Kap
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I think this type of thinking is part of the problem. Horvat would be the best center on this team by quite a bit, imo.I’m not going to speculate on fits and all of that- good players tend to work well with good players.
 
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Horvat is still good, and would certainly be useful. But he seems to be the type who will break down in a hurry. Lot of wear and tear
 
seafoam said:
Horvat for Rossi straight up?
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KaprizovSaveUs said:
Yeah
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We’d be better in the short term for sure and I can definitely see GMBG go after a guy like Horvat. That being said, I’d rather keep Rossi. My gut tells me this is the type of trade we will see from us this off season. Maybe Rossi for a winger in his late 20s and a FA veteran C
 
KaprizovSaveUs said:
I think this type of thinking is part of the problem. Horvat would be the best center on this team by quite a bit, imo.I’m not going to speculate on fits and all of that- good players tend to work well with good players.
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Well, JEE is a different type of player, but I think just as valuable as Horvat, and more so once you factor in contracts. Horvat is a vg FO%, which would help a lot in special team situations. Good skater, ok size/strength. Decent goal scorer.

Main strikes against him are that he is 7 years older than Marco, makes 8.5M, and is not a great point producer, despite playing with some pretty good players in NYI and VAN.

I would prefer that we trade for a younger, perhaps riskier player, who has more tread left on the tires. Get a cheaper stopgap veteran if necessary. Horvat is not much of a #1C.... more of a 2C.
 
57special said:
Well, JEE is a different type of player, but I think just as valuable as Horvat, and more so once you factor in contracts. Horvat is a vg FO%, which would help a lot in special team situations. Good skater, ok size/strength. Decent goal scorer.

Main strikes against him are that he is 7 years older than Marco, makes 8.5M, and is not a great point producer, despite playing with some pretty good players in NYI and VAN.

I would prefer that we trade for a younger, perhaps riskier player, who has more tread left on the tires. Get a cheaper stopgap veteran if necessary. Horvat is not much of a #1C.... more of a 2C.
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He's 2 years older than Kap, and has 6 years left on his contract. He was top-3 in FWD points on his team pretty much every season.

Who did he play with that was good in VAN (Boldy as the baseline)? VAN's good FWDs were Miller, EP, Boeser? (spikes the occasional good season), and the Sedins (end of their time). He wasn't on a line with any of them (maybe one Sadin?). Well he was on a line with Miller the season he was traded and had very good production. Most of the time he was on lines with players less good than Zucc in VAN.

In NYI he had Brazel (not a big goal sorer) as a linemate for a season.

I don't know if I'd make the trade. Horvat has a full NTC so it's not really worth considering the trade for me. But he has mostly been the top point producter on his line. I'm not even sure $8.5m is a big strike against with the way the cap is going?

He's not a top end 1C (100p+) but with JEE already on the team they could run a solid 1A/1B top 6 (if MN added another wing) instead of running the top line out there 22 mins a night.
 
DigitalBoldy said:
Button calling Jiricek a 3rd pairing guy and insinuating that is all he will ever be was pretty comical.
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Could just be how he was quoted. Felt more like that’s what he’ll be this year, but to not have the expectations that he’s ever going to be a top-pairing defenseman. I think that’s fair. I don’t expect Jiricek to be a 1RD ever (especially with Faber above him).
 
Spurgeon said:
Could just be how he was quoted. Felt more like that’s what he’ll be this year, but to not have the expectations that he’s ever going to be a top-pairing defenseman. I think that’s fair. I don’t expect Jiricek to be a 1RD ever (especially with Faber above him).
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The interview was from The Sota Pod, and what he said in context was that Jiricek isn't a top-pairing guy, and isn't going to be one. He's going to be a #5 defenseman who should forget about playing offense and just focus on playing a nasty and heavy game with his size.

I think Button is wrong on Jiricek, but I think Guerin is also wrong on him and overpaid. Probably he falls in the middle of those two men's expectations.
 
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I think no one wants him cause he's so short that he's basically useless and he's going to be playing in Japan next season
 
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Spurgeon said:
Could just be how he was quoted. Felt more like that’s what he’ll be this year, but to not have the expectations that he’s ever going to be a top-pairing defenseman. I think that’s fair. I don’t expect Jiricek to be a 1RD ever (especially with Faber above him).
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I listened to the podcast before that article was posted. Button almost sounded angry during that section.

 
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Button has a right to change his opinion, but back before the 2022 draft he had Jiricek listed as the 6th best player available. Jiricek is still young... kind of early to write him off.
 
Idk, he also said Brandon Carlo and Erik Crrnak. If he shoves you a decade of that level of play I’m more than happy. I also just tend to think Button is a dummy tho.
 
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I believe in a futures deal they would want to recoup essentially all the assets they gave up for Jiricek.
 
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