Player Discussion Marco Rossi

[DigitalBoldy]

And this is how you get Victor Rask.

If we don’t get anyone, we can always plug and play the guy who just played 1C in. Wow, what a concept! I know, right?

My ideal target is Larkin.

 

[AKL]

Someone we acquire.

Okay so humor me, I've brought up Tavares and Duchene but both are longshots.

Larkin isn't realistic.

What's your plan if we can't get someone better than Rossi? Would you play Nelson in the top six over Rossi just because he's bigger?

 

[Spurgeon]

Okay so humor me, I've brought up Tavares and Duchene but both are longshots.

Larkin isn't realistic.

What's your plan if we can't get someone better than Rossi? Would you play Nelson in the top six over Rossi just because he's bigger?

Isn’t Yurov gonna be tried at C?

 

[Wabit]

Okay so humor me, I've brought up Tavares and Duchene but both are longshots.

Larkin isn't realistic.

What's your plan if we can't get someone better than Rossi? Would you play Nelson in the top six over Rossi just because he's bigger?

I'd play them both in the top-6. Nelson as center and Rossi as wing.

Top-6:
Centers: JEE, Nelson
Wings: Boldy, Kap, Rossi, and one of Ohgren, Yurov, or Zucc (open competition).

I'd like a better center than Nelson, but I think he's a realistic target. The bottom-6 is the rest of the lineup is the signed players form last year.

 

[AKL]

Isn’t Yurov gonna be tried at C?

Probably but that doesn't make Rossi expendable at this point.

I'd play them both in the top-6. Nelson as center and Rossi as wing.

Top-6:
Centers: JEE, Nelson
Wings: Boldy, Kap, Rossi, and one of Ohgren, Yurov, or Zucc (open competition).

I'd like a better center than Nelson, but I think he's a realistic target. The bottom-6 is the rest of the lineup is the signed players form last year.

Is this better than having Rossi in place of Nelson and getting a winger better than Nelson?

 

[Wabit]

Is this better than having Rossi in place of Nelson and getting a winger better than Nelson?

I'm going off the Boeser because he's a likely signing. I'd rather have Nelson/Rossi over Rossi/Boeser. I'd like to see Nelson/Rossi over Nelson/Boeser too tbh. I'm not a Boeser fan. I also don't like Rossi as a center (nothing new there).

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Okay so humor me, I've brought up Tavares and Duchene but both are longshots.

Larkin isn't realistic.

What's your plan if we can't get someone better than Rossi? Would you play Nelson in the top six over Rossi just because he's bigger?

If we can't get someone better than Rossi, then we play Rossi at center.

If I'm forced to accommodate Nelson, I would play him at 2C and have Ek be the 1C between Kaprizov and Rossi. Nelson is not a better player than Rossi, but he is someone that might work well with Boldy and someone like Ohgren. Rossi gets more minutes on the top line. If Nelson sucks at 2C and Yurov proves he can play, then you flip flop those two. If Nelson sucks at 2C and Yurov isn't ready for an NHL center role, then put Rossi at 2C, Boldy up to 1RW, Yurov at 2RW.

Not opposed to Nelson overall, but hopefully his contract will be under 3 years and less than $5M AAV.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If we can't get someone better than Rossi, then we play Rossi at center.

If I'm forced to accommodate Nelson, I would play him at 2C and have Ek be the 1C between Kaprizov and Rossi. Nelson is not a better player than Rossi, but he is someone that might work well with Boldy and someone like Ohgren. Rossi gets more minutes on the top line. If Nelson sucks at 2C and Yurov proves he can play, then you flip flop those two. If Nelson sucks at 2C and Yurov isn't ready for an NHL center role, then put Rossi at 2C, Boldy up to 1RW, Yurov at 2RW.

Not opposed to Nelson overall, but hopefully his contract will be under 3 years and less than $5M AAV.

He's made decent money, but not the kind that says "I'll take $9M and not $25M". He's going to be 34 coming off of a 56 point season. It'll be a sizable contract.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

He's made decent money, but not the kind that says "I'll take $9M and not $25M". He's going to be 34 coming off of a 56 point season. It'll be a sizable contract.

Hope he has fun with whichever non-Minnesota team he signs with.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Hope he has fun with whichever non-Minnesota team he signs with.

I'm expecting it to be us.

 

[Soldier13Fox]

Fully expecting a Rossi bridge deal. I don't think there's any trade out there that would yield a better player in the near term. I also think that Big Balls isn't as dumb as some of you think and knows Rossi brings more than $5 million x 5 in value. The club starts low, rossis camp starts high. That's just negotiation. I can totally see both parties not agreeing to anything with term and Rossi gets a couple years to CONTINUE to prove it.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I'm expecting it to be us.

Dislike button.

 

[Luceni]

Fully expecting a Rossi bridge deal. I don't think there's any trade out there that would yield a better player in the near term. I also think that Big Balls isn't as dumb as some of you think and knows Rossi brings more than $5 million x 5 in value. The club starts low, rossis camp starts high. That's just negotiation. I can totally see both parties not agreeing to anything with term and Rossi gets a couple years to CONTINUE to prove it.

Then they better start trusting him on the ice.

All the indicators point to a trade this summer imo. And I'm fine with it, I think it's time to close the chapter "Minnesota Wild" for the player. He's clearly not appreciated here despite doing everything they asked for.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

I'm expecting the Nelson deal to be in the neighborhood of 3 x 7M. We're going to have about another 10M after that to do something with. Let's see if Guerin can get more creative than Brock Boeser.

 

[NHL1674]

I'm expecting the Nelson deal to be in the neighborhood of 3 x 7M. We're going to have about another 10M after that to do something with. Let's see if Guerin can get more creative than Brock Boeser.

I'd rather he get more creative than Brock Boeser AND Brock Nelson.

 

[MrRuin]

Fully expecting a Rossi bridge deal. I don't think there's any trade out there that would yield a better player in the near term. I also think that Big Balls isn't as dumb as some of you think and knows Rossi brings more than $5 million x 5 in value. The club starts low, rossis camp starts high. That's just negotiation. I can totally see both parties not agreeing to anything with term and Rossi gets a couple years to CONTINUE to prove it.

I am actually more and more thinking this will be the likely outcome. 6.5-6.8mil for a moderate term. Enough to offer job security and not too much money to still be able to move the contract should the need arise. That would be the ideal scenario for the Wild. Is it ideal for Rossi? I am not so sure but as a RFA the options for him are very limited.

 

[MrRuin]

The only one that tanked Rossi's value was Rossi by not playing well at the end of the season. The team gave him every chance for success this season.

I would argue that is not entirely true. They needed to rely on him and pushed him down whenever the need for him in the top6 was not there anymore. Happened a few times during the season and of course the POs were the glaring example. It's nuances like this that put the blame - if you want to call it that - not only on Rossi's shoulder. Aside from that I do not think that he really tanked his value all that much anyway. Maybe in the eyes of the fans but I somehow doubt that a real evaluation "on the hockey market" will show a huge dent in value from March to now.

 

[Wabit]

I would argue that is not entirely true. They needed to rely on him and pushed him down whenever the need for him in the top6 was not there anymore. Happened a few times during the season and of course the POs were the glaring example. It's nuances like this that put the blame - if you want to call it that - not only on Rossi's shoulder. Aside from that I do not think that he really tanked his value all that much anyway. Maybe in the eyes of the fans but I somehow doubt that a real evaluation "on the hockey market" will show a huge dent in value from March to now.

This is how hockey lineups work. When players get injured others play up in the lineup. When the team gets healthy the players that were playing up move back down.

Rossi's value is what it is to other teams, there is enough of a book on him to form an educated opinion. There will be some that aren't going to be interested in him because he's small. There are some that will see him as a wing not a center on their team. There are some that will see him as a top-6 center (like MN fans do). There are some that don't see a him as a fit for their team for whatever reason.

 

[north21]

I'd rather he get more creative than Brock Boeser AND Brock Nelson.

I'm just expecting this to happen. Then if it doesn't that is ok.

 

[Sota Popinski]

This whole Rossi thing reminds me of Granlund.

Young, smaller, promising player that never lived up to the hype. People were absolutely sure he was going to be the real deal but never really materialized for him. Was he a decent player? Sure. Some might even go so far as good. But it's not like the organization REALLY lost that much when he was traded away (of course, the depends on return) but nobody is bitching and moaning that Granlund was traded.

Granlund returned this board's favorite player, Kevin Fiala

 

[north21]

Granny landing us faber and ohgren sounds even better.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

Granlund landing us three sick years of Fiala and then Faber and Ohgren is well worth his 9OA selection. That is what I call good asset management.