Player Discussion Marco Rossi

[NHL1674]

Fiala fits our core age and his contract is a massive bargain. He’s exactly what we need in our top 6 and he never should have been traded.

That ship has sailed.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Fiala fits our core age and his contract is a massive bargain. He’s exactly what we need in our top 6 and he never should have been traded.

Fiala is a 1st line center!?

I don’t think Rossi gets that

Well, we shouldn’t trade him for Red Wings trash.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Trading rossi for a winger makes us center poor again. I am guessing we sign rossi anyway.

I think it’s interesting that they offered 5 years to start. They are clearly okay with him being around a while at the right price.

 

[DemidovSaveUs]

Fiala is a 1st line center!?

Well, we shouldn’t trade him for Red Wings trash.

Yeah I agree. What we think we should do and what we actually do may be two completely different things though.

 

[NHL1674]

I think it’s interesting that they offered 5 years to start. They are clearly okay with him being around a while at the right price.

Nah. They knew he wouldn't take a lowball offer.

 

[BagHead]

Nah. They knew he wouldn't take a lowball offer.

No, I think he's right. If Rossi had signed for $5 million that would leave them plenty of room to go after size on the wing instead of at center for the top-6. I think they would have been ok with that. I can't remember where I read it, but if he gets past $6 million or so the Wild are going to be in a difficult place to add a top-6 player. I think they threw him that contract in the hopes he'd sign it and make their decisions easy this summer. Now they've got some picking and choosing to do, because they won't have the cap space to do it all.

Plus, putting together contracts costs money. They wouldn't make him an offer they knew for sure that he wouldn't sign.

 

[f7ben]

I think if Rossi would have signed for 5 they would have traded him and had a massive haul coming back

 

[MrRuin]

Russo has some very clear things to say about double standards in regards to Rossi in his latest article that mirror a lot of what has been said here. I am actually surprised he so non chalantly criticizes the way Rossi (and Trenin for that matter) have been handled.

 

[AKL]

Russo has some very clear things to say about double standards in regards to Rossi in his latest article that mirror a lot of what has been said here. I am actually surprised he so non chalantly criticizes the way Rossi (and Trenin for that matter) have been handled.

Six things we’ve learned about the Minnesota Wild during this first-round playoff series

Coach John Hynes is doing some lineup tweaking heading into Game 5 on Tuesday. What will it mean?

www.nytimes.com

Double standard for Rossi?​

It really feels as though the Wild came into the playoffs with a preconceived notion that undersized Marco Rossi wasn’t going to be able to function. This doesn’t feel like it’s about performance. One so-so game, and they decided Rossi couldn’t do it before he ever proved he couldn’t do it.

They started him on the third line, immediately dropped him to the fourth line and have kept the skilled center there ever since despite the fact that he’s outperforming a number of forwards.

Hartman was rightfully rewarded for his play on the fourth line in Game 1. It was a good read and adjustment by the coaches, but there has been no adjustment for Rossi (10:53 average ice time), for Trenin, who has played well yet has logged the second-fewest minutes (9:57 per game), or for Gaudeau and Nyquist, who have been disappointing.

Rossi has scored two goals and an assist, has eight shots and won 46 percent of his draws in 43:30 of ice time. Yet Gaudreau continues to be in the top-nine despite zero goals, zero assists, one shot and winning 41 percent of his draws in 58:39 of ice time (14:40 per game).

Gaudreau has a 26.42 percent Corsi For percentage. For skaters who have played a minimum of 20 minutes, that’s dead last in the NHL among 285 skaters. In the first two games, the Johansson-Gaudreau-Zuccarello line allowed the highest expected goals against out of any line in all eight playoff series, so it’s not like Gaudreau has been getting it done defensively.

Nyquist, by the way, has zero points and one shot in four games and continues to be the least-proficient forward at even strength in the NHL all season.

In Game 4, despite scoring in the first period for the second straight game, Rossi logged 4:40 of ice time through two periods and just over seven minutes through three. Asked why Rossi didn’t play the last 13:05 of the second period, Hynes pinned it on special teams even though there were only two penalties in that span (one by each team).

It’s just nonsensical the way they’re treating the season’s second-leading scorer, and it could signal the beginning of the end in Minnesota for the pending restricted free agent.

 

[BagHead]

I agree with Russo on this. I don't even think Hynes needs to move players around necessarily, he just needs to give the 4th line more than 4th line minutes right now. By results, Freddy's line is our current 4th line and the minutes should get adjusted as such.

 

[itchy]

Another one:

The Marco Rossi Madness Has To End

One goal short. That's all the Minnesota Wild needed to get this series on lockdown. Finding one more goal -- anywhere -- was the difference between going back to Vegas with the Golden Knights demoralized or with home ice advantage in a de facto best-of-three. You can't get picky about where the ...

hockeywilderness.com

Same - I would get the argument that the 4th line is good as it is and he does not get promoted to keep that line together. But why not play them more then?
Let's just hope the 1st line is not running out of gas with those minutes.

 

[f7ben]

I agree with Russo on this. I don't even think Hynes needs to move players around necessarily, he just needs to give the 4th line more than 4th line minutes right now. By results, Freddy's line is our current 4th line and the minutes should get adjusted as such.

We were told this is how Hynes operates and now we are watching it. We are tied 2-2 in this series. Rossi is being benched despite performing. Buium is being press boxed despite undoubtedly being better than Bogo. Ohgren isn’t being given a shot despite Nyquist being the worst player in the post season and bringing absolutely nothing.

We could have plugged Ohgren in and kept our 2nd rd pick and been well ahead of where we are. Jiricek looked ready and should have been playing this season. Just so many terrible decisions.

 

[57special]

I agree with Russo on this. I don't even think Hynes needs to move players around necessarily, he just needs to give the 4th line more than 4th line minutes right now. By results, Freddy's line is our current 4th line and the minutes should get adjusted as such.

It's kind of a tell that as soon as Rossi is moved onto the 4th line, Brazeau and Trenin actually start to contribute.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I think it’s interesting that they offered 5 years to start. They are clearly okay with him being around a while at the right price.

I'm sure they would've jumped at him signing for 8 x $3M too.

 

[MNRube]

It's kind of a tell that as soon as Rossi is moved onto the 4th line, Brazeau and Trenin actually start to contribute.

Trenin has been contributing for awhile now. People just can’t get past his contract and slow start.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Trenin has been contributing for awhile now. People just can’t get past his contract and slow start.

Regular season:
First 24 games: 1 assist
Middle 30 games: 6 goals, 12 points
Last 22 games: 1 goal, 2 points

 

[DANOZ28]

the way mgmt is treating rossi they should trade him so he can thrive with another team!

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I'm sure they would've jumped at him signing for 8 x $3M too.

Okay. 5x5 is much closer to realistic than 8x3.

 

[MNRube]

Regular season:
First 24 games: 1 assist
Middle 30 games: 6 goals, 12 points
Last 22 games: 1 goal, 2 points

take away the first 24 and he’s right around what you want for a good 4th liner. And has hit even a higher level in the playoffs. I also should say that I agree with Billy G that this team desperately needed physicality.

My main complaint with Trenin (besides the bloated contract) is that he’s been a non-factor on the PK. I remember hearing how he was a good PKer. Nonetheless, he’s been a pleasant surprise in the playoffs and that helps me stomach his other issues moving forward.