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Yeah so ok, heading into the 2020 draft, my absolute favorite prospect was Marco Rossi. I would have loved if the Habs would have been able to select him, but due to the COVID and play-ins, they made a run in the playoffs and drafted at Guhle at 16, a solid pick. If they had lost during the play-ins, they would have selected 9. Guess who was picked at 9? Mr. Rossi himself. "Ironic" - Chancellor Palpatine.

Anyway, looks like my man Rossi is on his way out of MIN, for some reason. Habs need two things heading into this summer : a 2C and size. Rossi fits... The first part only. However, I would love to blend his quickness, agility on skate and solid shot with Demidov (who emulates Kaprizov's play). The playoffs showed that the Habs needs size and grit, Rossi would be tossed around, but maybe you add the sandpiper at the vacant spot on the wing here (maybe Justin Carbonneau in a couple of years you are able to draft him with one of the 1sts this year?).

So MIN fans, anything among the Habs assets that you think could fit what you would expect as a return for Rossi, in order to make me hope he becomes the chosen one in the following weeks, as I dreamt back in 2020? Not making a proposal here since I am not sure what you would need. I think on the Habs part, Hage becomes an available prospect for a deal like this, our 17th ovr pick this year (we target Carbonneau at 16), maybe a roster player too. Not Demidov or Reinbacher.

Also Habs fans, how do you envision all of this?
 
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The vibe in the Habs fan base seems that he’s too small. Personally I don’t care tho, talent is talent, and like you said you add the toughness/size elsewhere when needed. I’d make a big offer of futures, but I don’t think the Wild are looking for that. They have their own nice prospect pool, if anything, I think they’d try to add to Rossi to get a better center coming back.

Our team needed the last game of the season to squeeze into the playoffs, and that’s with the East being a shit show (Boston/NYR/Islanders all having a rough year, + Detroit and Columbus right there next year, and Buffalo should be better any day now). Our team could easily finish bottom 10 next year. We have 1 line, need a center for Demidov and have holes across the lineups. We’re not in a position to be picky, get talent whenever/wherever and figure the rest out later. Florida were small and soft before they went and added Tkachuk/Bennet/etc. Hurricanes are small yes, but they keep making deep runs, at least they can build on that in the next few summers/trade deadline to get over the hump.

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Hage’s name has popped up in the MN *HF* chatter… something around Hage+16 is probably the start imo.
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The vibe in the Habs fan base seems that he’s too small. Personally I don’t care tho, talent is talent, and like you said you add the toughness/size elsewhere when needed. I’d make a big offer of futures, but I don’t think the Wild are looking for that. They have their own nice prospect pool, if anything, I think they’d try to add to Rossi to get a better center coming back.

Our team needed the last game of the season to squeeze into the playoffs, and that’s with the East being a shit show (Boston/NYR/Islanders all having a rough year, + Detroit and Columbus right there next year, and Buffalo should be better any day now). Our team could easily finish bottom 10 next year. We have 1 line, need a center for Demidov and have holes across the lineups. We’re not in a position to be picky, get talent whenever/wherever and figure the rest out later. Florida were small and soft before they went and added Tkachuk/Bennet/etc. Hurricanes are small yes, but they keep making deep runs, at least they can build on that in the next few summers/trade deadline to get over the hump.



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Okay, you would. But what do you think Habs’ management would do? As someone who doesn’t follow the Habs closely, and assuming you do, what is your read on what the Habs would do?
 
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Hage’s name has popped up in the MN *HF* chatter… something around Hage+16 is probably the start imo.
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the only thing is It has been made more than clear wild don't intend on taking any picks from this draft as they don't like it. It would have to be 26. But apparently MN is first focused on trading Rossi for young Top 4W or Bigger C
 
Would probably have to be Hage+. If that’s a not it I get it but then the conversation ends for me. Maybe Guerin feels differently, idk. I’m not convinced Rossi will return the haul his statistical profile would say he should, but he should still get a good prospect plus or a good roster player.
 
I could see a trade around one of our bigger defenseman and a pick that seems like Guérins player type. But as others have said Rossi is on the smaller side so don’t know if that fits, maybe it can though.
 
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I feel like if McQueen starts to drop to 8-12 range, Montreal should trade up to grab him.

then just find a stop gap 2c like duechene/tavares grandlund

Montreal biggest need is 2c pref w/ size…. They don’t really need a lot of ammo in chamber at draft…. So trade up for a guy with huge upside that can become that
 
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FedorTyutin said:
Yeah so ok, heading into the 2020 draft, my absolute favorite prospect was Marco Rossi. I would have loved if the Habs would have been able to select him, but due to the COVID and play-ins, they made a run in the playoffs and drafted at Guhle at 16, a solid pick. If they had lost during the play-ins, they would have selected 9. Guess who was picked at 9? Mr. Rossi himself. "Ironic" - Chancellor Palpatine.

Anyway, looks like my man Rossi is on his way out of MIN, for some reason. Habs need two things heading into this summer : a 2C and size. Rossi fits... The first part only. However, I would love to blend his quickness, agility on skate and solid shot with Demidov (who emulates Kaprizov's play). The playoffs showed that the Habs needs size and grit, Rossi would be tossed around, but maybe you add the sandpiper at the vacant spot on the wing here (maybe Justin Carbonneau in a couple of years you are able to draft him with one of the 1sts this year?).

So MIN fans, anything among the Habs assets that you think could fit what you would expect as a return for Rossi, in order to make me hope he becomes the chosen one in the following weeks, as I dreamt back in 2020? Not making a proposal here since I am not sure what you would need. I think on the Habs part, Hage becomes an available prospect for a deal like this, our 17th ovr pick this year (we target Carbonneau at 16), maybe a roster player too. Not Demidov or Reinbacher.

Also Habs fans, how do you envision all of this?
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I like Rossi - kid is certainly a 2C and seems to have an attitude that would fit well in Montreal's philosophy. I imagine though that a lot of habs fans will want someone bigger at C. Rossi will likely have great seasons, but playoffs are roughhhh. Best to get bigger here if possible.

That being said, Gorton was asked about his philosophy in acquiring players, specifically for obtaining our 2C. I think he repeated "size and compete" (level) ten times in that interview. He also said that elite talent is important, but so is surrounding that talent with pieces that help them succeed in their roles. I think he was talking more about Panarin-type level of elite, but who knows? Maybe that means he is open to Rossi if he can surround him with size.
 
FedorTyutin said:
Yeah so ok, heading into the 2020 draft, my absolute favorite prospect was Marco Rossi. I would have loved if the Habs would have been able to select him, but due to the COVID and play-ins, they made a run in the playoffs and drafted at Guhle at 16, a solid pick. If they had lost during the play-ins, they would have selected 9. Guess who was picked at 9? Mr. Rossi himself. "Ironic" - Chancellor Palpatine.

Anyway, looks like my man Rossi is on his way out of MIN, for some reason. Habs need two things heading into this summer : a 2C and size. Rossi fits... The first part only. However, I would love to blend his quickness, agility on skate and solid shot with Demidov (who emulates Kaprizov's play). The playoffs showed that the Habs needs size and grit, Rossi would be tossed around, but maybe you add the sandpiper at the vacant spot on the wing here (maybe Justin Carbonneau in a couple of years you are able to draft him with one of the 1sts this year?).

So MIN fans, anything among the Habs assets that you think could fit what you would expect as a return for Rossi, in order to make me hope he becomes the chosen one in the following weeks, as I dreamt back in 2020? Not making a proposal here since I am not sure what you would need. I think on the Habs part, Hage becomes an available prospect for a deal like this, our 17th ovr pick this year (we target Carbonneau at 16), maybe a roster player too. Not Demidov or Reinbacher.

Also Habs fans, how do you envision all of this?
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There is zero chance the Canadiens add an undersized forward to their top six.
 
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