Grate n Colorful Oz
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well, in all fairness, Boston teams draw support from most of New England . that's like 10-15 mil.
And Rhode Island
well, in all fairness, Boston teams draw support from most of New England . that's like 10-15 mil.
That illusive question is definitely right up there with "what is the meaning of life". Its just something that cannot be definitively answered.
There are contending and near contending teams loaded with young talent on the current roster now, with the same plan for their own prospects coming up. Nobody is waiting for the Habs to catch up. Plus every team in the league has a smarter Gm in place to guide the ship.
Habs are going nowhere. It will be all they can do just to stay above water.
The state that I always thought was an actual island lolAnd Rhode Island
Nobody was waiting for the Leafs to catch up either, or the Jets.....now they are the ones not waiting on anyone.
If our GM aid as dumb as you say, then we should yield a few more top 3 picks......so let’s say we have Poehling, then Kotkaniemi, then Cozens, then Lafreniere......you telling me that we will have made no progression??
Then we could add on two more years of good drafting 2nd round on, this is on top of the last two drafts who on the surface looks like two success stories.
I think we gonna do well....as long as we stay the course in the tank, we gonna do fine.
The fans of those teams, deserve a big kudos!! Supporting their teams to the end......very impressive. Sox, Pats, Celtics, Bruins...
That's more commendable than supporting a mismanaged team, and in any case, those teams had lean years prior to their recent successes.
The habs have to stay out of the box, they can't spend all of their time in the box. The coach sadly has to wear it but getting pucks deep and to the net is the key. I thought of the Therrien clip so many times.
It all makes sense now.
I don't find this a difficult question to answer at all to be honest. Geoff signed him to a 5 year extension well before he had done anything to earn it, and now he's pinching pennies. I don't believe Molson believes in MB anymore either. Terrible way to operate imo, because he's causing irrevocable damage while filling out the last couple years before he gets canned. I knew Molson wouldn't fire him with that contract in place. I think we could be stuck with him again next year too.
From Sergachev he got himself a former 3rd overall pick and Galchenyuk he got himself a younger former 12th overall.I have two words and a conjunctive as an answer to your hopes. Galchenyuk and Sergachev. One was a 3rd OA and the other 9th. You see how he squandered those picks? What makes you think he won't do the same with Poehling, Kotka or Cozens or Lafren? there are no bounds to this man's ineptitude.
From Sergachev he got himself a former 3rd overall pick and Galchenyuk he got himself a younger former 12th overall.
Drouin had himself an off year playing in a role he hadn’t played since junior, no one will deny that. But are you really gonna judge the entire trade after one year?
Eller was traded to Washington and had himself his worst offensive output in like 4yrs on a much superior offensive team....FFWD to year two and he’s flourished.
Galchenyuk I liked a lot, sad to see him go.....but Domi has potential, let’s give him at least one game yes?
We will have some success as soon as we fire our clown GM..............those teams in Beantown all learned from their mistakes, but Molson still hasn't...That's more commendable than supporting a mismanaged team, and in any case, those teams had lean years prior to their recent successes.
To play devil's advocate, concerning Wennberg, are you talking about third overall high? Like he's better than Drouin? If that's the case, I disagree, grass is greener on the other side of the fence type of thing.Jonathan Drouin is a former 3rd overall pick, as in he was regarded as the 3rd best player of the 2013 draft back in June 2013. Nobody regards him that highly today.
I mean hello:
2013 NHL Entry Draft Picks at hockeydb.com
Would anyone argue that Drouin is the 3rd best player from that group?
So it's disingenuous to refer to him as a former 3rd overall. It contrasts to Galchenyuk and Sergachev, whose respective ranks hold up a lot better with hindsight.
ETA: I remember that some smart people were saying that Alexander Wennberg deserved to be considered for a high selection. They were right.
To play devil's advocate, concerning Wennberg, are you talking about third overall high? Like he's better than Drouin? If that's the case, I disagree, grass is greener on the other side of the fence type of thing.
That makes more sense.Higher than 14th overall.
Top 3 might be Seth Jones, Nathan McKinnon, and Aleksander Barkov.
But I can see bozovin drawing up this plan in crayon on a napkin in his office.
On the fan 590 in Toronto last week the first question the host asked a Montreal reporter was "how does Marc Bergevin still have a job"
Drouin had himself an off year playing in a role he hadn’t played since junior, no one will deny that. But are you really gonna judge the entire trade after one year?
You’re in good form. Typhoon turned left as usual I hear.Bull****. Nobody gives a crap if we rebuild or not, every single fan I talk to is completely okay with rebuilding. I have yet to meet anybody who told me they will stop watching/following if they do a rebuild.
This idea that montreal can't rebuild is pure fabrication by the organization/media. It all depends on where the team is. The first talk of a rebuild was in 2009, and many didn't want to because we had a strong team in 07-08. The idea of rebuilding when we were just becoming good again wasn't appealing. There were also a lot more interesting UFAs back in those days, you had plenty of good players like Cammy or Hossa hitting the market. Despite the crap years back then, we were still a PO bubble team, so people wanted to add some.
We are in a completely different situation right now.
He's not rebuilding anything. He's getting random players, he's just filling up a team.
We aren't winning jack crap if Gallagher and Drouin amount to 50% of our foundation.
We can draft McDavid, as long as we have a complete bozo in charge, we won't have a solid team.
Time for you to realize Bergevin never built a solid team, he came in, mostly let guys go, watched the guys he inherited lead the team to the top of conference, and he rode that wave for 3 years, until it started crashing down and boy has been crashing hard.
The idea that he'll build a solid team because we draft high is completely unfounded. He's been a massive failure and he will keep failing.
What crap. Montreal is one of the most beautiful cities in North America. Toronto is trash. I’ve worked all over the world as an architect. Your post is entirely ignorant.Although I agree with most of your post, I think you're wrong on this point. Montreal is a terrible sports town. Great for events like the Jazz Fest and Just For Laughs, that last a short period of time but when it comes to loyalty over the long haul forget it. Just go look at the Als, Impact and lest we forget the Expos.
Quite honestly Montrealers are delusional. They believe they live in the best of cities when in fact Montreal doesn't even rank as one of the best in Canada. In international surveys Montreal constantly falls behind T.O., Vancouver and it's even starting to trail Calgary. Hab fans have latched on to the Canadiens glorious history and that's what's keeping them still interested in the Habs. But Even the Canadiens can't survive three, four years of bottom feeding. The fans will turn away. A spotty record of two playoff years with one non-playoff year they can put up with.
Look at a city like Boston that has a comparable population. They have the big five leagues: MLB, NBA, NFL, MLS, NHL. None of their teams are rumoured to go under. Well when the Molsons were trying to sell the team in the late 90s no one wanted to buy it except for a stray Yank.
Everyone you spoke to wouldn't mind a rebuild. That's anecdotal not very scientific. I'll bet you my dollars to your donuts, Molson has had a number of surveys conducted where they asked the fans if they would put up with a 3-4 year rebuild in other words being a bottom feeding team. The answer probably scared the crap out of Molson.
We get the teams we deserve. Maybe not the guys that come onto this forum but be honest with yourself. The guys who come to this forum are not representative of the Hab fans. The typical Hab fan will desert this team quicker than a rat will desert a sinking ship.
Good pointsI judged the Drouin trade from day one. Absolutely nothing to do with Drouin's play. His play only makes the trade worse. The Idiot traded from a position of weakness (left d) to acquire position of strength (wing). As if that wasn't stupid enough he moved that winger to center. And if you think it wasn't/isn't a stupid move, the Idiot himself admitted in a pc 6 months later that in an ideal world Drouin is not a center.
As for the Galchenyuk trade I like both Chucky and Domi but Max is a winger and if the Idiot was so dead set on getting rid of Galchenyuk how about packaging him for a center - something we've needed for decades.
I tend to exaggerate in this forum but when it comes to MB screwing up with those top picks you mentioned I don't exaggerate. I think I down play it.
What crap. Montreal is one of the most beautiful cities in North America. Toronto is trash. I’ve worked all over the world as an architect. Your post is entirely ignorant.
Bergevin for sure has a plethora of multi color pens in his office.That's a pretty special pen