Marc Bergevin Appreciation Thread

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Picaroon

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It was time for Bergevin to move on, but it would be foolish to say he didn't make a number of good moves over his tenure... even in the end.

Honestly, for a rebuilding team that just finished dead last in the league and fired the GM, head scout and head coach, we are in very good shape. Actually, it would be difficult to find another team in this situation that was left with so many good assets (great young players, prospects AND draft picks).

Most rebuilding teams are a tire fire when the new GM comes in.
Literally Marc Bergevin was with left more pro assets, picks and prospects than this management team and most others. Not to mention 2 compliance buyouts. He completely bungled the first 5-6 years of his tenure trying to warp an already excellent core into his own archaic version of a hockey team. Acquiring a few good young players after 10 years of management is nothing to be praised. He walked into one of the best team building situations possible and screwed it up.
 

cphabs

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Ever pause about infraction points? Just for a few moments… before posting on a MB thread?
 

sandviper

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What's the story behind this one? I haven't heard of it.

Tbh, supposing rumors were true, I wish he'd dealt Subban for Draisaitl.

I thought it was a swap of picks (to get PLD) plus Nurse for Subban? I’ve heard the Draisaitl rumours also so maybe you’re right.
 

HuGo Burner Acc

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May not be the worst GM ever but he came at the worst time. I’m convinced he cst us at least one cup if not more.

Horrible GM. Thank God he’s gone.
Habs should've probably made the 2014 finals. In 2015, I personally think they played better than Tampa but 2OT or a last second goal , etc favoured them and not the habs. He probably should've been way more aggressive around 2013-15 but he was inexperienced and had no vision. 2016-18 (pre summer) should've 100% gotten him fired and blackballed from the NHL for incompetency. After the 2017-18, even the biggest MB supporters would agree that his job should've been gone. Molson decided to give him a second chance.

The 2018 summer-2020 fall retool in my opinion is MBs best lasting legacy for the habs. It gave the team future stars, players that can and were flipped for good assets, stocked the pipeline and draft picks.

If MB decided to resign immediately after the finals run, his legacy, because of recency bias would've been one of an inexperienced GM that mishandled a promising core, eventually blew it up/wore it out and then put the Habs in a really good position for the future.

The problem is what happened in the 2021 summer. It was atrocious and unforgivable. It sullied any positive endearment he got from the retool and then the finals run. It put the next management a year or two behind instead of being at a position of strength.

Habs are essentially in the same position now as they were in when MB came in. The difference is Habs now have a GM/VP that knows how to build rather than just maintain
 
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Whitesnake

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Anybody who doesn't win the big trophy while benefitting from the best player in his postion had failed. Then, on top of Price, he had Pacioretty, Markov, Plekanec, Subban, Eller, Gallagher, Emelin and Cie. Whether it's those players or products of those players.

He's the one who either hired or kept too long failure of coaches whether it's the NHL or the AHL. He,s the one who makes team talking about development has a novelty when it shouldn't. He's the one who didn't adapt in his scouting group. And didn't oversee his first drafts to be succesful.

He failed. Big time. Yet, failing in all sphere of work does NOT mean that you cannot have made a great move here and there. He did. But his overall tenure is a failure. Have no idea how some people can't see that.
 

nhlfan9191

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I'm sure these kinda threads don't help either?
It’s VERY rare to get an appreciation thread as a manager or coach. 90+ percent of the time staff in these roles leave is because they stopped doing their jobs at some point and are “fired.” I feel like this isn’t the first time somebodies attempted this exact thread.
 
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OldCraig71

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I'm sure these kinda threads don't help either?
They don't help at all. I became a critic of MB very early, probably long before many others did. He was a snake that was terrible at his job but always held the media in his front pocket and pandered to them whenever he felt any sort of heat. He held on for 5 years too long, mostly due to the partnership he enjoyed with them, it was nauseating to watch, no matter how low he dragged the franchise they remained uncritical and sang his praises. He was so into the pandering that he gave up our best D prospect to bring in a player that the media asked for just to push public opinion in his favor. He just wanted to be the darling, a gm/celebrity in the Montreal market. He inherited a gold mine and managed to waste it, he truly was horrible at his job. The Ron Burgundy of NHL GMs.
 

Kimota

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He was as GM as he was as a player. The grinder of a GM as opposed to Yzerman star first liner. With all the negatives and positives that goes along with it. I liked a lot of his moves and hated a lot of his moves. He was 50-50 and that was the issue, they never grew as an organization. Even their cup run was not a result of growth but of throwing a quarter in the air and hoping it lands right, riding two great players Weber and Price.
 

Xirik

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He left the Habs with four and a half seasons of Gallagher and the same with Anderson. Hopefully Anderson picks it up soon but at the moment he's trending to match last years point total.
 
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Treb

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He left the Habs with four and a half seasons of Gallagher and the same with Anderson. Hopefully Anderson picks it up soon but at the moment he's trending to match last years point total.

Anderson is not one of his top3 worst contracts.
 
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