Marc Bergevin 1st interview since being fired

[MasterD]

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What a POS. I don't understand how he lasted 10 years and how/why so many people defended him. Garbage GM.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

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What a POS. I don't understand how he lasted 10 years and how/why so many people defended him. Garbage GM.

He was bad enough that I don’t even think he will get a second GM gig with the ole boys club.

 

[BLONG7]

Corey wasn't telling him who to acquire in the trades. You get told to cut payroll, you don't get told who you bring back in the deals.

Houle turned Patrick Roy, Vincent Damphousse, Mark Recchi and Pierre Turgeon into way, way, way too little compared to what he gave up.

Then he turned a 1st round pick into Trevor Linden a couple of months after selling off Recchi and Damphousse for tens cents on the dollar.

He was atrocious, and Corey wasn't the problem.

We are going to have to agree to disagree..................Corey was calling the shots, and used Houle to be the fall guy. Just my 2 cents, I do remember it all very well. It was a daek time. Corey fired Savard and Demers, and replaced them with Reggie and some yes men.....we all know how it worked out.

Reggie had his hands tied, and Bergevin's hands were more than free to spend and draft accordingly.
Putrid, in both cases. And of course, there is the development issues...............

 

[ReHabs]

One of the biggest problems I had with the Bergevin era was how misaligned certain fans were about cause-&-effect. I'm not saying I was right and they were wrong, but rather it was difficult to even have conversations about Bergevin's decisions when certain things were attributed to him that I never felt he deserved credit (and vice versa) and also certain criticism I had of his decisions that others felt were not decisions in the first place.

So it wasn't just a diversity of judgements about Moves [A, B, C,... n] but also a bunch of things that we, as a fan base, couldn't even agree were his responsibility or doing.

Take, for instance, his inability to improve the offense. Some fans were tearing out their hair for some attacking help, other fans insisted that there was no way to acquire offensive players because he inherited a bad prospect cupboard/shallow asset pool and the cost to acquire the player(s) that fit the profile was universally prohibitive (which meant it was beyond Bergevin's capability and therefore not his fault). When it came time to shore up for the playoffs at the deadline, we never had a good-enough team worthy of going "all-in", so some commentators and media pundits actually graded him on a curve: eventually he wasn't criticised for not improving the offense; it was just assumed that the Habs were built that way (anemic offense) on purpose.

There was NO way to converge on some things. Even the media turned out to be more bipolar about him than anyone would've guessed. Toward the end, only some stray lone-shooters who weren't even hockey guys would dare to rub against the grain because the vibes around Bergevin Talk was so bad.

Remember "Subbanistas"? What the f*** was that! Were fans not supposed to dislike the sudden trade of a homegrown star player??

Bergevin had a lot of these sorts of discussions around him. It always felt far more intense and heated than necessary. It burnt me out and I only started talking Habs again after he was fired.

 

[salbutera]

Drafting and development has been a 10 year disaster under MB. What are you talking about.?He also hired a coach who publicly berated his star dman on TV on a regular basis before being hired. He doubled down on his foxhole buddy, produced one of the worst seasons in Habs history. Had back to back seasons with 8 game losing streaks. Said he was building through the draft but didn’t add a single first round pick. Treated fan favourites like Markov and Subban with no respect at all and single handedly made the franchise completely unwatchable for many long time fans. The product and the culture around the team was completely toxic under his leadership. f***ing gross. Completely incompetent.

Drafting & developing top line F has been a 51 year disaster (since Shutt), and top line C has been a 100+ year disaster

Habs have drafted & developed one 80+ pts F who managed to maintain that pace for 2+ consecutive years in 53 years … Naslund (4)

 

[Spring in Fialta]

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What a POS. I don't understand how he lasted 10 years and how/why so many people defended him. Garbage GM.

Makes all the people who talk about a French bias within the club look even more stupid. If true, what utterly pathetic behavior.

 

[Whitesnake]

I love people defending him talking about the poor drafts of Timmins...as if Bergevin had to keep him.

In resume, a guy who has the luxury to be GIVEN the best player of his position and is given 10 years, SHOULD win a Cup. It will be said by Edmonton if they don't win with McDavid. It should be said with Bergevin since we didn't win with Price.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Drafting & developing top line F has been a 51 year disaster (since Shutt), and top line C has been a 100+ year disaster

Habs have drafted & developed one 80+ pts F who managed to maintain that pace for 2+ consecutive years in 53 years … Naslund (4)

That’s what happens when you go 30 years without a top five pick.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I love people defending him talking about the poor drafts of Timmins...as if Bergevin had to keep him.

In resume, a guy who has the luxury to be GIVEN the best player of his position and is given 10 years, SHOULD win a Cup. It will be said by Edmonton if they don't win with McDavid. It should be said with Bergevin since we didn't win with Price.

Yep.

The makings of a cup winning team was there. It needed a 1st line center. Jagr could’ve come in too. I mean we were not far away.

And if they didn’t believe in Chuck, they could’ve just traded him for the number one we needed.

Instead we hired Donkey Kong to coach the team, turned down Jagr, played Chuck third line wing….

 

[FerrisRox]

We are going to have to agree to disagree..................Corey was calling the shots, and used Houle to be the fall guy. Just my 2 cents, I do remember it all very well. It was a daek time. Corey fired Savard and Demers, and replaced them with Reggie and some yes men.....we all know how it worked out.

Reggie had his hands tied, and Bergevin's hands were more than free to spend and draft accordingly.
Putrid, in both cases. And of course, there is the development issues...............

So you believe that Ronald Corey was literally pouring over stats and rosters and informing Rejean Houle who he should be receiving back in transactions?

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but thats a pretty wild one.

Also, Ronald Corey retired in 1999, and Houle was the General Manager into the 2000-01 season, so you are giving an awful lot of credit for a team president, with an exclusively business background, for the team's personnel decisions.

 

[BLONG7]

So you believe that Ronald Corey was literally pouring over stats and rosters and informing Rejean Houle who he should be receiving back in transactions?

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but thats a pretty wild one.

Also, Ronald Corey retired in 1999, and Houle was the General Manager into the 2000-01 season, so you are giving an awful lot of credit for a team president, with an exclusively business background, for the team's personnel decisions.

Corey drove the bus...............from the Roy trade on. It was him, that gave away our goalie. Right up until he retired he was no doubt in my mind, the decimator of the team, and Reggie was his fall guy.
Reggie was a good soldier, who was in over his head, but took one for his boss.

Bergevin had zero interference.............Zero. He $hit the bed, all on his own.

Let's just agree to disagree. Yes, arguments can be made for both sides.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

BargainBin was given a team with Price, Subban, Eller, Gallagher, Pacces entering their prime and a solid vet group consisting of Pleky and Markov. What he did with this group was a total disaster. He did make some good lateral moves acquiring Vanek and Petry at first, earning praise from Habs fans, but it was all downhill ever since. Him and his buddy Timmins drafted so poorly that it was much worse than the Peanut era. Failing to sign Vanek, Danault, Markov and Radulov long term were stupid moves. The Subban trade set back the team for years, along with the Sergachev fiasco. As much as a warrior that Weber was, he was playing injured. Failing to turn Galchenuyk into something tangible was another blunder. We ended up with Anderson and his lengthy ridiculous contract. KK is another example.

I felt as if one step forward meant taking two steps back. Towards the end of his tenure, he had accumulated enough years to convince Toffoli, Allen, Perry and Edmundson to join. It was Price that was carrying this team, and it all fell apart in the end. Other than that, Bergevin would equally be just as bad as Peanut. The only other good moves were Suz and Cole, nothing really for HuGo to salvage out of this.

HuGo did great getting rid of the deadwood. However, the damage inflicted by BargainBin is still evident. The HuGo moves are starting to backfire. I really don't see how this organisation can return to its former glory. Houle's destruction continues to this day.