Manny Malhotra will not coach the Power Play

[ACC1224]

Should have just fired him. He was very incompetent his role and there’s not a lot from his playing days that would suggest he’s a power play specialist.

It always seemed like a strange hire.

News Article: - Manny Malholtra to be Leafs next assistant coach

Some interesting comments when he was hired.

 

[Racer88]

Should have just fired him. He was very incompetent his role and there’s not a lot from his playing days that would suggest he’s a power play specialist.

Maybe Dubas promised him he wouldn’t fire or trade him…..

 

[JT AM da real deal]

This was a poor hiring decision from start to bring in a checker to coach PP as I stated from day 1 of hire .. but many of you debated with me and told me anyone can coach anything .. bottom line is analytics don't know how to shoot, analytics don't know how to hit, analytics don't know hockey sense etc .. hockey skills are largely innate and then developed through repetition and competitive games from an early age .. guys who are good at defending can teach another guy how to defend over time if kid has it in him to do it .. never take a defensive player and let him take a penalty shot .. guys who can score know how to do it .. it can't be taught

 

[sparxx87]

It always seemed like a strange hire.

News Article: - Manny Malholtra to be Leafs next assistant coach

Some interesting comments when he was hired.

I liked the hire under the assumption he was going to stick to his strengths on the defensive and PK side of things. It was always confusing why they'd put him on the PP. Little like going to your family doctor for dental work; he won't be completely out of his element but why not stick to area of expertise?

Hiring good people is half the battle but putting them in a situation where they can be successful is equally important. It never seemed like Manny was put in a position to succeed as the PP coach.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Thornton Rielly and Marner on PP1. What the hell did you think was going to happen...pass it to Matthews or Tavares.

Easiest f***ing PP to defend.

 

[Leafidelity]

We've upgraded from a 17 year NHL vet with 36 career power points (12g 24a) in nearly 1000 games to coach who hasn't been part of a power play since he was in 3rd Division NCAA. What could possibly go wrong?

If you look at his stats, its likely the last time Manny Malhotra was involved on a powerplay was 1997 in the OHL

 

[Antropovsky]

Team had a good year points wise but overall I thought the team leaned to heavily on Marner and Matthews while the rest of the team seemed not to find much consistency or confidence. Nylander got hot and finished with a good year, same goes with Tavares but I think we all expected more from Tavares.

 

[AllDay28]

This was a poor hiring decision from start to bring in a checker to coach PP as I stated from day 1 of hire .. but many of you debated with me and told me anyone can coach anything .. bottom line is analytics don't know how to shoot, analytics don't know how to hit, analytics don't know hockey sense etc .. hockey skills are largely innate and then developed through repetition and competitive games from an early age .. guys who are good at defending can teach another guy how to defend over time if kid has it in him to do it .. never take a defensive player and let him take a penalty shot .. guys who can score know how to do it .. it can't be taught

If you put a team together with your eyes and someone put a team together with analytics, they’d beat you 100/100 times.

 

[Gary Nylund]

If you put a team together with your eyes and someone put a team together with analytics, they’d beat you 100/100 times.

If that's true, how come we lose in the playoffs like always? Isn't analytics something our team pays a lot of attention to?

 

[The Iceman]

This was a poor hiring decision from start to bring in a checker to coach PP as I stated from day 1 of hire .. but many of you debated with me and told me anyone can coach anything .. bottom line is analytics don't know how to shoot, analytics don't know how to hit, analytics don't know hockey sense etc .. hockey skills are largely innate and then developed through repetition and competitive games from an early age .. guys who are good at defending can teach another guy how to defend over time if kid has it in him to do it .. never take a defensive player and let him take a penalty shot .. guys who can score know how to do it .. it can't be taught

I had to check to see who posted this...you lost your accent.

I agree with your whole post until the can't teach scoring. And even then is it teaching them scoring or giving a player an opportunity to score more. Hyman being my example.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Team had a good year points wise but overall I thought the team leaned to heavily on Marner and Matthews while the rest of the team seemed not to find much consistency or confidence. Nylander got hot and finished with a good year, same goes with Tavares but I think we all expected more from Tavares.

I'm not the least bit disappointed in JT myself. I judge everyone by the playoffs and he got hurt so that's that.

 

[fahad203]

They didn't want to fire him because they replaced a coach last year. Toronto doesn't want to come off as a grave yard for coaches or personnel

So instead, they just switch his roles around. To me its weird, I would have just released him and move on. Hire someone more capable

 

[diehardleafsfan9878]

You guys are ripping on Manny when last season was his first as the powerplay coach. The powerplay issues have been ongoing for 3 years now. Every year they start blistering hot, and go ice cold. This is their 4th PP coach in 4 years now, and nothing has really changed in those years, aside from moving everyone else's position around except Marners. Marner has been QBing the PP from the half-wall this entire time and teams figured it out long ago. The reason it starts hot every year is because it takes teams time to get their PK system down and their timing back. Unless Marner is in a different position for the PP, the same results will happen.

 

[AllDay28]

If that's true, how come we lose in the playoffs like always? Isn't analytics something our team pays a lot of attention to?

Almost every team in the NHl runs off analytics. As do the current back to back champions the Lightning.

 

[diehardleafsfan9878]

And to the issue that Manny shouldn't be coaching a PP because he was a PK guy all I have to say is yes, he was 1 of the best PK guys when he played too and that means something. Understanding how a Penalty Killing should react, or how they react to different scenarios is extremely useful. This is why forwards have great success as defensive coaches, and defenders having success as forward coaches. They understand how to get beat, or what needs to be done to stop a rush.

 

[fahad203]

You guys are ripping on Manny when last season was his first as the powerplay coach. The powerplay issues have been ongoing for 3 years now. Every year they start blistering hot, and go ice cold. This is their 4th PP coach in 4 years now, and nothing has really changed in those years, aside from moving everyone else's position around except Marners. Marner has been QBing the PP from the half-wall this entire time and teams figured it out long ago. The reason it starts hot every year is because it takes teams time to get their PK system down and their timing back. Unless Marner is in a different position for the PP, the same results will happen.

No doubt. This has been an ongoing problema and it will be an ongoing problem until we get a PP quarterback with hard point shot
Simple as that, otherwise everyone is just going to push down and block out the passes

That being said, the idea to keep Joe T and Simmonds on a consistent basis was just worrysome. Very rarely they tried different personnels. Rotations were the same, the approach was the same

Lot of us wanted Muzzin on the PP from the get go. Heck even try Holl who has a strong shot. Instead we eluded to keep using Rielly, same drop passes

Our 5 on 3 should be a guranteed goal. Yet last year we had few we missed including one for 4 minutes if I am not mistaken

 

[AllDay28]

You guys are ripping on Manny when last season was his first as the powerplay coach. The powerplay issues have been ongoing for 3 years now. Every year they start blistering hot, and go ice cold. This is their 4th PP coach in 4 years now, and nothing has really changed in those years, aside from moving everyone else's position around except Marners. Marner has been QBing the PP from the half-wall this entire time and teams figured it out long ago. The reason it starts hot every year is because it takes teams time to get their PK system down and their timing back. Unless Marner is in a different position for the PP, the same results will happen.

might wanna look up the stats before making these claims. The leafs haven’t been bad on the power play for 3 years …

20/21 - 16th
19/20 - 6th
18/19 - 8th
17/18 - 2nd

like I know people are scared of analytics (aka stats) but there are sites that have this info for you

 

[JT AM da real deal]

I had to check to see who posted this...you lost your accent.

I agree with your whole post until the can't teach scoring. And even then is it teaching them scoring or giving a player an opportunity to score more. Hyman being my example.

Zach is one of da very very very few manufactured hockey players EVER .. to replicate Zach requires a dad with couple million in development $$$ devoted (ice, skills coaches and skating instructors), a mom who is completely devoted to full time driving each and everyday and a kid who has work rate BTNL .. what I am trying to say it is a very very very RARE thing .. but even with Zach his goals are work driven goals .. yes he gets lucky with a few beauties too .. but there are kids who can hardly skate who make teams because they see things around net and have innate ability to score whereas there are guys who can skate incredibly, beautiful vision and highly skilled who can't score .. this has been hockey history for a hundred years my friend

 

[Gary Nylund]

You guys are ripping on Manny when last season was his first as the powerplay coach. The powerplay issues have been ongoing for 3 years now. Every year they start blistering hot, and go ice cold. This is their 4th PP coach in 4 years now, and nothing has really changed in those years, aside from moving everyone else's position around except Marners. Marner has been QBing the PP from the half-wall this entire time and teams figured it out long ago. The reason it starts hot every year is because it takes teams time to get their PK system down and their timing back. Unless Marner is in a different position for the PP, the same results will happen.

Not that cold. And there should be no learning curve when coaching our PP, you need to hit the ground running.

Almost every team in the NHl runs off analytics. As do the current back to back champions the Lightning.

I'm pretty sure every team uses analytics differently and emphasis on analytics varies from team to team.

 

[diehardleafsfan9878]

might wanna look up the stats before making these claims. The leafs haven’t been bad on the power play for 3 years …

20/21 - 16th
19/20 - 6th
18/19 - 8th
17/18 - 2nd

like I know people are scared of analytics (aka stats) but there are sites that have this info for you

I never said the PP was bad. For the past 3 seasons, 18/19, 19/20, 20/21, the powerplay has started off extremely hot, and went ice cold towards the end of the season.

 

[Dayjobdave]

I thought Paul Marner coached the powerplay ;-)

 

[LaPlante94]

Keefe better watch out. Reading up on this Spencer Carbery guy who will be taking control of our PP, it sounds like he has a promising future as a NHL head coach.

 

[67leafs]

Thank god …..duh

 

[All Mod Cons]

Lol. So, he's being replaced but not fired?

It would be mean to fire him. He'll remain on the payroll to make tea and check the fax machine.

Dream job.

 

[Martin Skoula]

And to the issue that Manny shouldn't be coaching a PP because he was a PK guy all I have to say is yes, he was 1 of the best PK guys when he played too and that means something. Understanding how a Penalty Killing should react, or how they react to different scenarios is extremely useful. This is why forwards have great success as defensive coaches, and defenders having success as forward coaches. They understand how to get beat, or what needs to be done to stop a rush.

A good PP player has been in maybe 4-5 systems over the course of his career. Good PKers have to study and dissect 31 other PPs every year.

 

[Racer88]

If that's true, how come we lose in the playoffs like always? Isn't analytics something our team pays a lot of attention to?

Ya I was thinking the same thing.
I keep hearing we dominated according to the fancy stats yet we keep losing.