Managerial Thread - 24/25 Season - Lolves/Lolthampton

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Part of me doesn’t think Amorim should take the job, but I can’t see how he wouldn’t. I just don’t think his formation with Sporting will work at United right now.
Yeah not sure how a 3-4-3 works for United right now... I mean CB wise we should be fine with who we have. Dalot probably looks fine at RWB as would Shaw the 9 games we get out of him. But I just really don't know what happens with the attack. Seeing what Amorim has done with Gyokeres makes me excited for Hojlund, but formation wise it does throw a wrench in things for Garnacho, Rashford etc a little bit.
 

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Looking at the managers they've landed since ferguson...is it?
I think it is. It's still one of the biggest clubs in England, and historically one of the biggest in the world. I think, as others have noted, it's been a series of strange hirings and general mismanagement that has us even discussing this. With some stability above, and a good manager, United can still be a powerhouse.
 

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Yeah not sure how a 3-4-3 works for United right now... I mean CB wise we should be fine with who we have. Dalot probably looks fine at RWB as would Shaw the 9 games we get out of him. But I just really don't know what happens with the attack. Seeing what Amorim has done with Gyokeres makes me excited for Hojlund, but formation wise it does throw a wrench in things for Garnacho, Rashford etc a little bit.
I would absolutely love to see Antony as a wing back. Probably won’t work but he puts in defensive work and better than Lindelof at LWB.
 

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I think it is. It's still one of the biggest clubs in England, and historically one of the biggest in the world. I think, as others have noted, it's been a series of strange hirings and general mismanagement that has us even discussing this. With some stability above, and a good manager, United can still be a powerhouse.

It could be one of the top jobs again, but those strange hirings were in no small part the result of top candidates like Klopp and Nagelsmann not wanting the job because of the mismanagement.

If this new regime can establish credibility and a reputation for competence, things will change again, but I don't think that's happened yet.
 
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I think it is. It's still one of the biggest clubs in England, and historically one of the biggest in the world. I think, as others have noted, it's been a series of strange hirings and general mismanagement that has us even discussing this. With some stability above, and a good manager, United can still be a powerhouse.
It's all based on repertoire nowadays. They don't have the money due to FFP because of EtH, so they are limited in what they can spend. Not only that, but most of the players they have bought have been players who didn't play a big part on their past clubs. The only buys they made for quality players were Antony (at the time) and Hojlund (You could add Zirkzee if you want). Most of the "biggest clubs in England" are only pushed by the narrative of older sports journalists who saw them win everything in the late 90s. Sure they are the biggest club in Manchester, but that is getting often overshadowed by Liverpool's continued success in the overall region, the rise of Plastic City, and all the London clubs' success. Matters are made worse with a bounceback by Chelsea this season. With a successful manager, however, they can be pushed back into the "legendary biggest clubs" category quite easily, but now they are simply Spurs 2.0.
 

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Nah. Amorim is good. This is a good hire. United will bankroll the over haul he’ll need. He’ll be fine. Won’t always look pretty and they will need to (lol) give him time. But this is a good hire.

Honestly I have no idea why Amorim is taking the job right now, but he’s clearly has a bad agent. My big question is why United didn’t hire him this summer
 
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Nah. Amorim is good. This is a good hire. United will bankroll the over haul he’ll need. He’ll be fine. Won’t always look pretty and they will need to (lol) give him time. But this is a good hire
I'm guessing there will be some decent growing pains adjusting to the system, but as long as theres an actual system and tactics in place I feel like those growing pains will be accepted.
 

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I'm guessing there will be some decent growing pains adjusting to the system, but as long as theres an actual system and tactics in place I feel like those growing pains will be accepted.
Yeah I mean the first thing he will do is get United organized and start setting up his identity. Which is fine. I actually think they have some good players for that system, but I think they have a lot of players that aren’t too. But that’s not going to get fixed immeasurably either. I think the defense gets better. I don’t think we are going to see a ton more goals.

I think this is a good system for Martinez. I think this is a bad system for De Ligt. I think this is a good system for Ugarte, I think this is a potentially bad system for Mainoo. I don’t think any of the forwards are particularly suited but they will probably just buy Gyokeres as soon as Sporting will allow it. But again if they are buying in Amorim will be a good hire. If people are getting upset because they are getting too many draws and the offense hasn’t figured it out, and the green and gold scarves come out, this could end poorly too
 

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Nah. Amorim is good. This is a good hire. United will bankroll the over haul he’ll need. He’ll be fine. Won’t always look pretty and they will need to (lol) give him time. But this is a good hire.

Honestly I have no idea why Amorim is taking the job right now, but he’s clearly has a bad agent. My big question is why United didn’t hire him this summer
Yeah, this is definitely a good hire. Amorim will at least have a plan, which I thought was ten Hag's biggest downfall. However, I wouldn't classify this as a great hire. Ruben reminds me a bit of Ange where he's really stubborn in how he wants to play and he won't deviate from that style (it's a good style though).
 

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Yeah, this is definitely a good hire. Amorim will at least have a plan, which I thought was ten Hag's biggest downfall. However, I wouldn't classify this as a great hire. Ruben reminds me a bit of Ange where he's really stubborn in how he wants to play and he won't deviate from that style (it's a good style though).
Ruben is better than Angie
 

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Ruben is better than Angie
My entire point wasn't to compare the two in talent, it was that they are both stubborn individuals in their tactics. I agree overall, Ruben is better than Ange, but there is a caveat to that. Amorim has better overall structure, but nobody is beating Ange and his offensive flair.
 

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Some of how successful he is or isn’t will have to be based on how they can remove some of those players and find money to get new ones.

But at least they know what type of system he wants to run. He actually had a plot
 
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Yeah not sure how a 3-4-3 works for United right now... I mean CB wise we should be fine with who we have. Dalot probably looks fine at RWB as would Shaw the 9 games we get out of him. But I just really don't know what happens with the attack. Seeing what Amorim has done with Gyokeres makes me excited for Hojlund, but formation wise it does throw a wrench in things for Garnacho, Rashford etc a little bit.

Yeah,, I think with everyone healthy you have at least the starting CBs. However, he doesn’t always seem to use wingbacks regularly. I think it works becauase it’s the Portuguese league, but he’s even used wingers there. Either way, I just think playing three at the back in the Premiership might prove difficult. He seems a very detailed and thorough manager though, we’ll see, but I think part of the problem at United are some of the players.
 

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Tactics aside, at least Amorim has the right disposition for this job.

He’s got a sense of humour, he’s not completely uptight, his English is good enough to trade barbs with the media, he seems like he can connect well with players.

These are all things ETH wasn’t or couldn’t do.
 
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