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Managerial Thread - 24/25 Season - Lolst Ham United

I don't know if he has any international experience but on the surface that's clearly a homerun hire for the US. The team's talent level is going to cap him though. Feels like he'd work best for a side that has a lot of dual nationalities in which his stature could work as a selling point.
 
Poch is a very, very, very good coach and therefore as someone who wants USMNT to fail I do not like the hire

But club --> NT is never seamless, so it's not a slam dunk
 
Wee Baby Seamus said:
Poch is a very, very, very good coach and therefore as someone who wants USMNT to fail I do not like the hire

But club --> NT is never seamless, so it's not a slam dunk
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It can be, but generally it’s the more tactical coaches that suffer from not having enough time to drill their squad. The more NBA style ego-managers can general do well with the switch.

…though “in general” is just that, Nagelsmann is as tactical as it gets and he’s been great.
 
Kind of surprised he took a national team job in general (would say this even if he took the England job) as he's pretty a locked in candidate for most of the top half of the Premier League. It's just unless he makes a crazy deep run his stock isn't going to improve with the USMNT
 
In theory, the US manager is about the most appealing job in the game. If you're enough of a control freak and/or egomaniac you'd believe that with a decade or two, an unlimited budget and massive potential for growth you could, in theory, make them the best in the world.

Whether or not anyone could actually manage that, who knows. But it'd be fun to try, probably.
 
Ceremony said:
In theory, the US manager is about the most appealing job in the game. If you're enough of a control freak and/or egomaniac you'd believe that with a decade or two, an unlimited budget and massive potential for growth you could, in theory, make them the best in the world.

Whether or not anyone could actually manage that, who knows. But it'd be fun to try, probably.
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Yeah, there's no denying the potential the US has. But it requires a long term project.
 
What exactly is the potential the US has? Okay, you have access to probably unlimited funds. But the potential to expand your talent pool isn't there. How many dual nationals are in Europe? Doubt there's many.
 
Spring in Fialta said:
What exactly is the potential the US has? Okay, you have access to probably unlimited funds. But the potential to expand your talent pool isn't there. How many dual nationals are in Europe? Doubt there's many.
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It’s legitimately the stupidest argument I’ve heard for a decade now. Americans are the best athletes or some other bs. They’ll never be the best footballing nation. Never ever not in our life time.
 
Spring in Fialta said:
What exactly is the potential the US has? Okay, you have access to probably unlimited funds. But the potential to expand your talent pool isn't there. How many dual nationals are in Europe? Doubt there's many.
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Duchene2MacKinnon said:
It’s legitimately the stupidest argument I’ve heard for a decade now. Americans are the best athletes or some other bs. They’ll never be the best footballing nation. Never ever not in our life time.
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The "what if ~random basketballist~ played hockey" is about my least favourite recurring thread on here, but that's not the point. If the US puts the money in and creates the facilities and hires or trains the coaches and gets enough of the population taking the sport seriously at youth level, they absolutely could produce world class players if the process if given the necessary time and funds. Whether or not that happens or whether Pochettino is the man to do or not we'll probably never know, but it's easy to see the appeal.
 
Poch is not gonna change the largest structural inhibitor in US footballing development, which is pay-to-play youth systems! The MLS academies have made enormous progress and US prospect development is now by far the best it's been in my time following the sport, but it remains a major barrier
 
Ceremony said:
The "what if ~random basketballist~ played hockey" is about my least favourite recurring thread on here, but that's not the point. If the US puts the money in and creates the facilities and hires or trains the coaches and gets enough of the population taking the sport seriously at youth level, they absolutely could produce world class players if the process if given the necessary time and funds. Whether or not that happens or whether Pochettino is the man to do or not we'll probably never know, but it's easy to see the appeal.
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I think the logistics of doing what people think is possible with youth soccer in the US is extremely difficult for a country the size of the US, both in terms of population and area. And fixing issues at the youth level doesn't address that the sport is just less popular than other options at a high school level and above. I played AYSO with 10-15 kids who all also played on club teams. I was the only one who played at the high school level or beyond, with all of them opting for football, basketball, etc... instead. Small sample size sure.
 
Wee Baby Seamus said:
Poch is not gonna change the largest structural inhibitor in US footballing development, which is pay-to-play youth systems! The MLS academies have made enormous progress and US prospect development is now by far the best it's been in my time following the sport, but it remains a major barrier
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Pay-to-play is the norm for all top level youth sports in the US though, it's not just a footballing issue. I do agree the growth of MLS academies has been a really huge asset.
 
Bringer of Jollity said:
Pay-to-play is the norm for all top level youth sports in the US though, it's not just a footballing issue. I do agree the growth of MLS academies has been a really huge asset.
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oh i know it's not specifically a footballing issue, but when it's a different structure than every other country and pushes out good players it presents a development problem
 
Ceremony said:
The "what if ~random basketballist~ played hockey" is about my least favourite recurring thread on here, but that's not the point. If the US puts the money in and creates the facilities and hires or trains the coaches and gets enough of the population taking the sport seriously at youth level, they absolutely could produce world class players if the process if given the necessary time and funds. Whether or not that happens or whether Pochettino is the man to do or not we'll probably never know, but it's easy to see the appeal.
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they would produce world class talent but hardly be “best team in the world” they may match the elites in Europe but that’ll take about 100 years and capitalism will swallow itself by then. Making this conversation pointless.
 
Ben Grimm said:
You're on fire today. 100 years? It's been less than 80 years since the end of WWII and (except for American football) many countries are competitive in sports that the US used to be the best in.

@Jussi We're never gonna win? What if we can't see your posts?
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What?
 
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