Managerial Thread - 24/25 Season - Engloland

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Maguire hasn't been first choice for a while...I feel like you know this but it's not convenient for your point.

Meh he started every major tournament except the last insert his replacement.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Starting CBs of major tournament winners since 2010:

Spain 24: Le Normand and Laporte
Argentina 22: Romero and Otamendi
Italy 21: Chiellini and Bonucci
France 18: Umtiti and Varane
Portugal 16: Pepe and Jose Fonte
Germany 14: Boateng and Hummels
Spain 12: Pique and Ramos
Spain 10: Pique and Puyol

4/8 have two world class CBs (Italy, Germany, and the two Spains). 1/8 has a world class CB paired with a very good CB (France). 2/8 have a very good CB paired with a mediocre CB (Argentina, Portugal). 1/8 have a pair of mediocre CBs (Spain).

A world class CB duo is obviously a great thing to have that enhances your chances of winning a tournament. But tournaments have been won without them! Stones is comfortably on the level of multiple guys here who had been the 'better' CB in pairings, and England have CB prospects fully capable of being better than the f***ing Otamendis of the world.

And it all comes back to the core point, which is that these games are not played on paper. For all that the panic has consistently been "England have bad CBs", their issue was always in the parts of the pitch where they're fantastic on paper, because their offensive coaching was f***ing dreadful.

And it's always so funny when it circles back to Maguire. For all that Maguire is an easy meme, he's been consistently fantastic for England. There's a reason why he made the Team of the Tournament for Euro 2020 when he only played in the knockout stages. People need to actually watch games instead of forming opinions from Internet shitposts.

 

[Ceremony]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846309469459767336

I f***ing love it when England eats itself.

 

[bluesfan94]

Speculation is that City will target Amorim if Pep does decide not to renew. Hugo Viana taking over for Txiki Begiristain and mentoring with him beforehand has fed this.

Can’t imagine Amorim being interested in non league football but I guess you never know.

 

[AlanHUK]

Love this hiring

f*** the mail, f*** the telegraph, in fact f*** our entire national press, they've never backed the national teams in any sport, until we win then they act like they've been behind them the whole way instead of trying to undermine then

 

[bluesfan94]

Starting CBs of major tournament winners since 2010:

Spain 24: Le Normand and Laporte
Argentina 22: Romero and Otamendi
Italy 21: Chiellini and Bonucci
France 18: Umtiti and Varane
Portugal 16: Pepe and Jose Fonte
Germany 14: Boateng and Hummels
Spain 12: Pique and Ramos
Spain 10: Pique and Puyol

4/8 have two world class CBs (Italy, Germany, and the two Spains). 1/8 has a world class CB paired with a very good CB (France). 2/8 have a very good CB paired with a mediocre CB (Argentina, Portugal). 1/8 have a pair of mediocre CBs (Spain).

A world class CB duo is obviously a great thing to have that enhances your chances of winning a tournament. But tournaments have been won without them! Stones is comfortably on the level of multiple guys here who had been the 'better' CB in pairings, and England have CB prospects fully capable of being better than the f***ing Otamendis of the world.

And it all comes back to the core point, which is that these games are not played on paper. For all that the panic has consistently been "England have bad CBs", their issue was always in the parts of the pitch where they're fantastic on paper, because their offensive coaching was f***ing dreadful.

And it's always so funny when it circles back to Maguire. For all that Maguire is an easy meme, he's been consistently fantastic for England. There's a reason why he made the Team of the Tournament for Euro 2020 when he only played in the knockout stages. People need to actually watch games instead of forming opinions from Internet shitposts.

I’d argue that Pepe was world class but that doesn’t detract from your point.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Starting CBs of major tournament winners since 2010:

Spain 24: Le Normand and Laporte
Argentina 22: Romero and Otamendi
Italy 21: Chiellini and Bonucci
France 18: Umtiti and Varane
Portugal 16: Pepe and Jose Fonte
Germany 14: Boateng and Hummels
Spain 12: Pique and Ramos
Spain 10: Pique and Puyol

4/8 have two world class CBs (Italy, Germany, and the two Spains). 1/8 has a world class CB paired with a very good CB (France). 2/8 have a very good CB paired with a mediocre CB (Argentina, Portugal). 1/8 have a pair of mediocre CBs (Spain).

A world class CB duo is obviously a great thing to have that enhances your chances of winning a tournament. But tournaments have been won without them! Stones is comfortably on the level of multiple guys here who had been the 'better' CB in pairings, and England have CB prospects fully capable of being better than the f***ing Otamendis of the world.

And it all comes back to the core point, which is that these games are not played on paper. For all that the panic has consistently been "England have bad CBs", their issue was always in the parts of the pitch where they're fantastic on paper, because their offensive coaching was f***ing dreadful.

And it's always so funny when it circles back to Maguire. For all that Maguire is an easy meme, he's been consistently fantastic for England. There's a reason why he made the Team of the Tournament for Euro 2020 when he only played in the knockout stages. People need to actually watch games instead of forming opinions from Internet shitposts.

France had 2 world class CBs and Argentina had one but not getting into the nitty gritty and derailing it. Portugal Greeced their way to a title they're an anomaly. England with their fire power would have to completely alter their mentality and I doubt that'll happen. consistently fantastic yet dropped....