We don’t typically see any deals during the playoffs anyways. You don’t typically see stuff happen until the buyout period starts.
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For Vancouver it appears finding a 1C is the real problem.
Just because a player is put in that roster spot doesn't mean they are equivalent to a 1C on other teams, just that there is nothing else better.
EP40 at 60 or 70 pts is NOT a 1C especially when all the added PP time is included.
I know lot of people tried so hard to find excuses for his diminished play, that BS about summer training is just that. Players used to come to camp to GET INTO shape. See 1972 Russia series, it took three weeks for them to get into game shape and then they started to dominate. But that was the norm.
Coming to camp in great shape just helps start off the season on the run but by November/December most players are in shape.
Ditto with the "tendonitis". Look up recovery and treatment. 95% of all medical treatment requires rest or taking a chance it can become chronic and never improve.
Considering his decline has stretched over 2 1/2 years using EDGE data, slowing and shooting speed declines, this is not just tendonitis, remember also this was Dr. Tocchet's suggestion and nobody on the team knew anything about it prior and since it is never used as an excuse by the team, just owned media like Dhali who promotes false narratives all the time only to later retract and say he knew all along, ie; the EP/JTM crap.
Sellers;
I don't see any team's now having to sell to meet the cap and if there are any they aren't selling the players they feel help their team. It is an entertainment business and Vancouver selling out means money for the league so you never know but.... YA cynical
Quite possibly the two best high skilled center's available to the Canucks are not in the league yet but in the draft.
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" If Podkolzin had been a free-agent signing, the Canucks would have been doing backflips if they had gotten those kinds of a two-way results out of a player with a $1 million cap hit. Consider that they just signed Drew O’Connor, who had about the same number of points and much worse defensive numbers, to a two-year contract with a $2.5 million cap hit."
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No, it was completely reasonable for them to move on from Podkolzin, who regressed from his rookie season and looked like a replacement level player at best for us last year. A 25 point season where he played most of his minutes with Draisaitl doesn’t change that." If Podkolzin had been a free-agent signing, the Canucks would have been doing backflips if they had gotten those kinds of a two-way results out of a player with a $1 million cap hit. Consider that they just signed Drew O’Connor, who had about the same number of points and much worse defensive numbers, to a two-year contract with a $2.5 million cap hit."
Did the Canucks move on from Vasily Podkolzin too quickly?
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I still think it was a weird trade. They weren't really that under the gun to move him, and weren't stacked with depth. They basically traded him to keep PDG (who ended up playing 20 NHL games) and an extra depth defenseman on the roster. They had also extended him a few months before trading him.
ephmrl
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He wasn't working out in the organization so they moved him to give him a fresh start elsewhere. Pretty standard move that happens often when a prospect is not showing signs of growth.
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Then acquired a similar player and signed him to twice the money.
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I'm not sure if this has been posted.
Trevor Linden provided excellent insight in that video. As a Canucks legend, his candid perspective was refreshing. I fully agree with his assessment.
Last year during the playoffs, Linden implicitly challenged Elias Pettersson by emphasizing that ‘your best players must be your best players to win’ – echoing the standard set by legends like Bure, Linden, and McLean in ’94. His disappointment with Pettersson’s performance was evident, and he seemed genuinely surprised by the reported rift between Pettersson and J.T. Miller.
In my view, Miller should prioritize his own performance over concerning himself with teammates' readiness. True leaders elevate the team by empowering others, not scrutinizing them. If Pettersson was indeed unprepared, that’s a matter for coaching staff – not fellow players.
Linden also expressed understandable surprise that Manny Malhotra wasn’t retained. Personally, I still believe Linden’s leadership as President was more effective than the current direction under Jim Rutherford.
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Linden hired Benning as GM and brought on the worst era in Canucks history.
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linden wanting a rebuild but the ownership sided with the gm bought on the worst era in Canucks history. Personally I feel right now might be the worst.
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He got hired as a completely inexperienced President. Hired the wrong GM and lost the power struggle to said GM.
See Joe Sakic and his early struggles, he got to learn on the job, Linden never got that chance...
He hired the worst GM in nhl history that proceeded to ruin my favourite sports team for nearly a decade. He can kiss my ass.
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The rift was exacerbated by a coach who didn't believe his star player had an injury (nor that a Selke level 100+ point season was how you win in the NHL), and then subsequently asked JT to "toughen him up". This set off a firestorm that was then detonated by a senile old man who can't keep his mouth shut and chose to throw his players under the bus rather than take any blame.
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Let's not attempt to whitewash Linden's role in the Benning disaster. He might have seen the light towards the end but before that he brought in the worst gm in the cap era and enabled him. All while being a pretty smug asshole throughout.
Linden went to bat for Benning and got him the extension, who turned around and pushed him out. But that still extended his time as GM far longer then it ever should have gone.
Linden went to bat for Benning and got him the extension, who turned around and pushed him out. But that still extended his time as GM far longer then it ever should have gone.
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Linden changed his mind, he came in full on-board with the Benning plan (one of his favourite early talking points was "got to honour the Sedins, so got to stay competitive"), but then a bunch of ex-players he knew and people outside the Canucks organization started getting in his ear about how the team needed to be torn down and he flipped. Aquilini cannot have this (also the reason Gillis was basically fired), so he was gone.
the same people that will make excuses like 'aqualini would never allow a rebuild' and 'you can't rebuild a roster with elite talent like quinn hughes/the sedins on it' throwing shade at trevor linden for backing a gm and their plan to retool
I believe Linden said it was at the ASG/GM meetings he sought out and spoke with GM’s and management level hockey people about the direction of the team going forward and the overwhelming opinion was that it was time for a rebuild.
…but that was not how Benning viewed things and apparently not what ownership wanted to hear when he returned.
I admire Linden for putting his ego aside to do that.
However, that’s the kind of thing he should have done when he first took the job: speak with as many trusted and experienced hockey people and get a sense of how others viewed things from the outside looking in.
You don’t have to see things the way they do but if you talk to 20 other experienced management level personnel and the overwhelming majority of them are saying the same thing, you would have to ask yourself what you do or do not know that makes you see things differently.
Linden is awful, only thing he is good at and concern about is PR and making himself look good. i still remember the time he threw Kassian under the bus by calling him “that” after they traded him away.
The only people that supported that was hardcore Benning bros..
linden backed a GM and a plan to rebuild? lol that never happened.
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Yeah, sorta the same thing. If I recall, it was some of his connections when he worked in the NHLPA that were in his ear about how they were doing things wrong, and the team required a rebuild at the time. The owner then basically told him to pack it; he was either fired or resigned to save face.
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