Management Thread Blurst of Times

[Oliewud]

I never understood the logic behind trading Podkolzin. At just 22 years old, he was a former first-round pick earning a modest $1 million on the fourth line. He wasn’t lighting up the scoresheet, but he wasn’t a liability either—he worked hard, played with physicality, and still had room to grow. For a team that supposedly values drafting and development, why move on from a young, cost-controlled asset with untapped potential?

What’s the plan here? Are we prioritizing short-term "grit" over long-term upside? If it’s a cap-saving move, $1 million is peanuts in today’s NHL. If it’s about roster spots, why not give a homegrown player more time to carve out a role? The trade feels like a sideways move at best, and at worst, another example of this franchise’s impatience.

Tocchet preaches accountability, but accountability shouldn’t mean discarding prospects before they’ve had a real chance. Podkolzin wasn’t a problem—he was a project. This kind of decision-making makes me question the vision. Are we building something sustainable, or just shuffling deck chairs?

Nailed it.

Their record doesn't match their rhetoric.

 

[BOBBY9]

Anybody see the video of Allvin at the ticket holders meeting?

Was asked about the JT vs EP thing and he elaborated a bit.

"JT came in to the season very in shape and some younger players didn't" was something that stuck out. Small leaks are starting to form a story about what happened.

 

[I am toxic]

Ruthervin doubling down on the "Petey was lazy" story

Huh

You overplayed him, led to an overuse injury, you kept playing him, and destroyed his knee

I would definitely double down on the "Petey was lazy" claptrap too, some people will lap it up

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Ruthervin doubling down on the "Petey was lazy" story

Huh

You overplayed him, led to an overuse injury, you kept playing him, and destroyed his knee

I would definitely double down on the "Petey was lazy" claptrap too, some people will lap it up

We have two scenario's

1) Pettersson gave no f***s about any off-season training. Showed up to camp out of shape. Miller gets frustrated and management trades him to placate the guy who didn't bother coming to camp in shape establishing a shit message to the rest of the team.

2) Pettersson was injured in the 2023-24 season and management dropped the ball several times forcing him to play through it.

Either way, the Vancouver Canucks franchise is a total joke right now.

 

[theguardianII]

We have two scenario's

1) Pettersson gave no f***s about any off-season training. Showed up to camp out of shape. Miller gets frustrated and management trades him to placate the guy who didn't bother coming to camp in shape establishing a shit message to the rest of the team.

2) Pettersson was injured in the 2023-24 season and management dropped the ball several times forcing him to play through it.

Either way, the Vancouver Canucks franchise is a total joke right now.

There are more than two scenario's, those are the one's management want out there.
There are always lot's of behind the scene's shat that happens that is kept on the QT.

The EP/JTM issue may have been worsened in the room by Tocchet taking one player's side after the dust up at practice.
I pity Hughes who had to take a stand one way or the other.

The training thing, funny after the posts of him working out in the summer AND he had all year to get into shape physically so just maybe it was something else, something to do with his environment.

At any rate the summer training issue is a weak excuse AND they, Allvin, now has the market set against him and this accusation will stay with him for years and especially in this market.
IMO Allvin is used to Pittsburgh where the team is 2nd or 3rd fiddle and comments like this go away after a news cycle which only shows how naive he is about this market.

Allvin stated he knew nothing about EP's comment about having a bad knee, but Tocchet came up with the "tendonitis and it is nothing" comment. Tendonitis is not nothing, the only cure is rest or it can become chronic so working out really hard this summer could aggravate that injury if it exists.

Vancouver IS NOT a favored destination for high skilled players right now.
Let's say they do force a player without a clause into coming here but he doesn't want to be here, these guys aren't slaves or indentured, they have opinions. Is having a player that wants out good?
The only skilled guys, highly skilled guys, they can get are RFA's or draft picked. The draft is where they got most of the best players this team has ever had and most in the top 10 picks, Linden was #2, Sedins were #'s 2 & 3, Horvat was #10, Hughes #7, Pettersson #5 and you can go back further or deeper into the draft for some of the better players as well.

I totally agree the team is a mess, BUT it could be rejigged with a "build" using the draft and at least one big trade and another that might seem to lose now but benefit in a couple of years.
Rutherford showed he can fill in a group pretty quick, all he needs is a group to fill in for, a new younger core and those come via the draft. Otherwise it is year after year of trying to make the playoffs with maybe one decent season thrown in when the window has diminished to a year or two.