Management Thread | Blurst of Times

[God]

Unfortunately all signs point toward Soucy being the problem:

- Forbort looked pretty good even with those guys, but only because I think expectations have been set so low because Soucy was so much worse.

- Hronek has been great since coming back from injury except for the few games a couple weeks back that they paired him with Soucy.

it's quite sad to see. i thought he was fantastic last year, and there have been some 3 game stretches where he's looked like his old self. but something is off. this is his first full season as a negative player in +/-.

 

[MS]

it's quite sad to see. i thought he was fantastic last year, and there have been some 3 game stretches where he's looked like his old self. but something is off. this is his first full season as a negative player in +/-.

His skating looked awful to start the season, like he aged 5 years in one summer, and I really wonder if having newborn twins significantly impacted his ability to train in the summer and arrive in camp in shape, and whether he just hasn't been able to recover from that.

I have nothing to substantiate this and it's pure speculation but as someone with two kids 3 and under ... holy f***, it's exhausting and holy f***, it's hard to do things like find time to exercise and stay in shape.

 

[God]

His skating looked awful to start the season, like he aged 5 years in one summer, and I really wonder if having newborn twins significantly impacted his ability to train in the summer and arrive in camp in shape, and whether he just hasn't been able to recover from that.

I have nothing to substantiate this and it's pure speculation but as someone with two kids 3 and under ... holy f***, it's exhausting and holy f***, it's hard to do things like find time to exercise and stay in shape.

this also happened with JTM in 22-23 so i get it. also makes me understand someone like sundin more, who waited until his career was done to have kids.

tangentially related but i once talked to the owner of a dairy queen in the neighbourhood that laurence gilman lived in, and he said his theory was that the canucks lost to the bruins because they started having kids and they couldn't focus during the playoffs. i thought he was insane at the time, but maybe he's right.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

On the flipside, having kids seemed to level up Bo Horvat.

 

[Icebreakers]

What would you guys give up for Alex Tuch?

Seen his name circulating.

Honestly , his game would be perfect for what the Canucks would be looking for. 6'4 220lb winger with speed.

 

[God]

What would you guys give up for Alex Tuch?

Seen his name circulating.

Honestly , his game would be perfect for what the Canucks would be looking for. 6'4 220lb winger with speed.

I would've been happy with getting Tuch back in a JTM deal, and Buffalo was always a team that I was surprised wasn't in the mix for him

Now I don't know that we have any assets to offer them, and the price is high given that he's a local guy. Willander is off the table but fits their needs the best. Doubt they trade him for Boeser, even with an extension.

 

[rypper]

Buffalo 100% should have been after Miller. Doubtful he would have waived to go there, but they need someone like that to come in and shake things up.

 

[MS]

Buffalo 100% should have been after Miller. Doubtful he would have waived to go there, but they need someone like that to come in and shake things up.

Yeah, it's insane to me that they were the #1 team after him. He was probably a better fit there than any team in the NHL and they had tons of options to offer back in a trade.

They sorely need an impact #1 matchup C. The single biggest reason they can't turn a corner is that their 1C (Thompson) is basically a shooting winger with defensive issues playing C and their matchup 2C is Cozens who is just not ready for the role.

 

[credulous]

miller would never, ever waive for buffalo as long as a single other team was interested

 

[MS]

miller would never, ever waive for buffalo as long as a single other team was interested

Other than Pittsburgh which was obviously a non-option given the mess there, Buffalo is the closest NHL market to his home town and are a reasonably promising young team where he would have come in as 'the guy' which might have appealed to him. It's still probably a no but it isn't something I would have ruled out entirely and if I were Buffalo I would have been moving mountains to make it happen and convince him. And that certainly didn't seem to happen.

 

[Bleach Clean]

I have literally no idea what you're watching. Hronek has been excellent this year, full stop.

Again, the literal biggest hole on the team was 2LD. We were probably the weakest team at 2LD in the entire NHL. This trade has nothing to do with who the 1RD is.

I'm questioning your ability to evaluate Hronek objectively.

Outside of Hughes, he's only looked OK with Forbort, and that in a low event sense. With Hughes, he wasn't sharp enough in passing, rushing, or shooting to drive offense himself. He deferred too often.

Myers actually has been pretty similar to Hronek this year. He has looked OK with Soucy outside of Hughes (similar to Forbort-Hronek). Nobody is confusing him for a strong #3 Dman though...

You're watching the game you want to watch, not the one that is actually occurring.

This is why getting MPetey will be significant in Hronek's utility. He can play with him or Hughes and still push the play forward.

 

[God]

i just realized filip hronek and jeremy roenick have the same last name