Value of: Make Wallinder and Willander Happen

[Cake Eater]

Either direction. What would it take to get the two in the same org that both love their Swedes?

Wallinder was an all situations top pairing D in the SHL last year against men, now getting used to NA hockey in the AHL but pretty well insulated by two other Swedish LD in Edvinsson and Johansson ahead of him.

Willander is having a great freshman year in the NCAA and had a very solid WJC.

Neither org would want to give them up so the price would have to be very solid. Both great skaters. Wallinder has the size, Willander has the competitiveness edge.

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[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

Either direction. What would it take to get the two in the same org that both love their Swedes?

Wallinder was an all situations top pairing D in the SHL last year against men, now getting used to NA hockey in the AHL but pretty well insulated by two other Swedish LD in Edvinsson and Johansson ahead of him.

Willander is having a great freshman year in the NCAA and had a very solid WJC.

Neither org would want to give them up so the price would have to be very solid. Both great skaters. Wallinder has the size, Willander has the competitiveness edge.

How about they unite in Calgary.

 

[Rowlet]

Canucks can't afford to move theirs

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

This sounds like a law firm

 

[Some Other Flame]

Where there's a Will there's a Wall

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

It'd take significantly less for VAN to get Wallinder than DET to get Willander.

And the price for DET to get Willander wouldn't be worth it at all considering their right side is Seider long term and a hopefully panning out of ASP who is the same draft year.

 

[Robtom18]

It'd take significantly less for VAN to get Wallinder than DET to get Willander.

And the price for DET to get Willander wouldn't be worth it at all considering their right side is Seider long term and a hopefully panning out of ASP who is the same draft year.

I think if wallinder was available, the blues would be all over it.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I think if wallinder was available, the blues would be all over it.

I would expect that if Detroit was moving Wallinder, it'd only be as the "Plus" in a package for a Top 6 C or top 4 D that fits the age range for their group. Only guy that really fits that in STL is Robert Thomas and there's about no chance in hell that's happening lol.

Essentially what I mean is, I don't see Detroit laterally flipping Wallinder for a pick, (That's a perpetual rebuild move) and I don't see them doing a prospect swap. Both of those would require them to have soured on Wallinder, and there's no indication of that.

 

[Robtom18]

I would expect that if Detroit was moving Wallinder, it'd only be as the "Plus" in a package for a Top 6 C or top 4 D that fits the age range for their group. Only guy that really fits that in STL is Robert Thomas and there's about no chance in hell that's happening lol.

Essentially what I mean is, I don't see Detroit laterally flipping Wallinder for a pick, (That's a perpetual rebuild move) and I don't see them doing a prospect swap. Both of those would require them to have soured on Wallinder, and there's no indication of that.

What about buchnevich at 50% with kevin hates at 50%
For
Wallinder kasper 1st. You guys resign buchy in off season.

Robert thomas is a 1c who has 62 pts in 55 games. That would cost a lot i mean a lot. Wallinder is top 4 dman at ceiling. But maybe faulk could be a possibility.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

What about buchnevich at 50% with kevin hates at 50%
For
Wallinder kasper 1st. You guys resign buchy in off season.

Robert thomas is a 1c who has 62 pts in 55 games. That would cost a lot i mean a lot. Wallinder is top 4 dman at ceiling. But maybe faulk could be a possibility.

Not to be rude, but this is awful for Detroit lol.

 

[Robtom18]

Not to be rude, but this is awful for Detroit lol.

Well what does detroit require. Buchy is top line winger who has played 2c. Hayes is a cost controled big body 3c. That price is the price for 1.5 years of buchnevich. I have had other detroit fans like it. Just curious

 

[norrisnick]

Well what does detroit require. Buchy is top line winger who has played 2c. Hayes is a cost controled big body 3c. That price is the price for 1.5 years of buchnevich. I have had other detroit fans like it. Just curious

Not trading a 21 and 19 year-old and a 1st for a 28 winger and 31 year-old 3C.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Well what does detroit require. Buchy is top line winger who has played 2c. Hayes is a cost controled big body 3c. That price is the price for 1.5 years of buchnevich. I have had other detroit fans like it. Just curious

A Top 6 C or a Top 4D that fits their age range.

Buch is a great winger but not an ideal center and is about to be 29 and a UFA in 2025. Hayes is completely useless to us as he's a downgrade from Compher or Copp.

Either way we're definitely not trading Kasper + Wallinder + 1st for Buch given his age, position, and contract status. He has value for sure. I'd question if his value is that high, but he does have value... He just doesn't have that value to us, especially given that our winger depth already includes Raymond/Debrincat/Kane.

 

[Robtom18]

A Top 6 C or a Top 4D that fits their age range.

Buch is a great winger but not an ideal center and is about to be 29 and a UFA in 2025. Hayes is completely useless to us as he's a downgrade from Compher or Copp.

Either way we're definitely not trading Kasper + Wallinder + 1st for Buch given his age, position, and contract status. He has value for sure. I'd question if his value is that high, but he does have value... He just doesn't have that value to us, especially given that our winger depth already includes Raymond/Debrincat/Kane.

Understood. But i dont think kane will be there much longer.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Understood. But i dont think kane will be there much longer.

Remains to be seen. I think it's a no-brainer to keep him if he wants to stay, but who knows if he might explore the market with more cap space available.

Even if he leaves, I'm gonna say no to weakening our LHD and center depth and dropping a 1st to add a middle age (Career wise) winger that's a year from UFA lol.

 

[Robtom18]

Remains to be seen. I think it's a no-brainer to keep him if he wants to stay, but who knows if he might explore the market with more cap space available.

Even if he leaves, I'm gonna say no to weakening our LHD and center depth and dropping a 1st to add a middle age (Career wise) winger that's a year from UFA lol.

Np doubt you want to keep him. I saw with jaybo having the same hip surgery. It took an entire year before he was great again. Towards the end of this year and then next i think he is going to breal out again.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Np doubt you want to keep him. I saw with jaybo having the same hip surgery. It took an entire year before he was great again. Towards the end of this year and then next i think he is going to breal out again.

If it's up to me, I'd gladly throw Kane 2 years at $6M - $7M.

If he takes a cliff dive, oh well. We've got the cap.

 

[Robtom18]

If it's up to me, I'd gladly throw Kane 2 years at $6M - $7M.

If he takes a cliff dive, oh well. We've got the cap.

He is a perimeter player with skating and finesse. Once he is fully healed i bet he gets 2ppg again. I think though buffulo is going to offer him more money or even go back to chicago when cap is back.

 

[Amadeus]

Should have made Jarko Ruutu - Tuomo Ruutu - Jordan Tootoo happen instead.

 

[T_Cage]

Send them both to Toronto so they can have Will, Wall, and Woll (convince Woll to change his last name to Wollinder for added effect)

Should have made Jarko Ruutu - Tuomo Ruutu - Jordan Tootoo happen instead.

The 'Too Many Vowels' line

 

[Cake Eater]

It'd take significantly less for VAN to get Wallinder than DET to get Willander.

And the price for DET to get Willander wouldn't be worth it at all considering their right side is Seider long term and a hopefully panning out of ASP who is the same draft year.

Edvinsson - Seider
Wallinder - Willander
Albert Johansson - ASP

It’s beautiful

 

[datsyukfan]

Edvinsson - Seider
Wallinder - Willander
Albert Johansson - ASP

It’s beautiful

5 Swedes and a German

 

[Ezekial]

Understood. But i dont think kane will be there much longer.

Why?

All signs point to him choosing Detroit and he's thrived in the situation. If we make the playoffs I see him re-signing as an inevitability.

 

[norrisnick]

Edvinsson - Seider
Wallinder - Willander
Albert Johansson - ASP

It’s beautiful

It'd be amusing if Albert and Anton Johansson end up as a pairing. Anton was just at the WJC so he's been trending upwards since the draft.

 

[Robtom18]

Why?

All signs point to him choosing Detroit and he's thrived in the situation. If we make the playoffs I see him re-signing as an inevitability.

I responded lower. I he took detroit as a prove it coming off surgery. He has always shown a desire for his hometown buffulo who has money to resign him. Also i am sure he would go back to chicago. But i am sure detroit could be right there. He may even go to another team. Depends does he want cup or final big payout.