M. Frost vs J. Farabee

[BritainStix]

Frost. When this kid figures out the pace of the NHL he's going to be special.

 

[Alex K]

At this point it's just a crap shoot, I hope they both will be our next stars. During his stint with the Flyers Frost showed a lot of flashes of his brilliance at the NHL level (especially comes to mind how he clowned Armia and Thompson ) so it's hard to bet against him, but don't fool yourself thinking that Farabee's ceiling is just a reliable top-6 two-way winger like Brandon Saad, he's got all the tools to become a real offensive threat down the road.

 

[deadhead]

Avoid stereotypes.

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Put those stats in context, Frost was highly sheltered by AV, Farabee played on every line but the first and in more challenging situations.

It's like Gudas putting up great stats as the 3rd pair RHD, but playing behind a D-man in Washington who in turn, played behind Braun the year before in San Jose.

Stats don't lie, but sometimes they misinform.

We'll see next year when Frost is the regular 3C (b/c I don't expect Patrick to play again until I see him on the ice).

 

[TB87]

Put those stats in context, Frost was highly sheltered by AV, Farabee played on every line but the first and in more challenging situations.

These stats weren't tracked with the context you are asking for as a consideration. Asking for said context is picking at nits.


Microstat tracking in a nutshell:
- tracking detail specific events that the tracker is looking for
- tallying up the data
- sharing data


QoT, QoC, sheltering, zone starts, home or away game, etc. aren't typically considerations for microstats/microstat tracking.

 

[tymed]

At the 5-year mark and beyond this is a lot tougher for me to lean into, but I have real hard time betting against Joel over the near-term for a lot of reasons.

 

[captainpaxil]

Frost can be a poor man's Matthews with the way he sees the ice and can slow the play down. His top end is insane.

Farabee has a great motor and natural scoring ability that is yet to translate. He looks like a 60pt winger and I won't be surprised if I'm underestimating him.

The flyers future is bright.

 

[1865]

Very different players but equally important. Really don't think we can pick one over the other.

 

[AdamParrot]

For fantasy? Frost for sure.

Farabee is and will be better two-way forward. Frost should be great offensive forward especially.

 

[Curufinwe]

Farabee had the bigger impact on the ice.

Frost had a bigger impact on forum posts and social media engagement.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Frost because he is a center. A rare thing here.

 

[VladDrag]

Weird thread to resurrect, but since we're here....

Comparisons to the most recent season. Pretty comparable overall impact. Farabee appears to be more of a solely offensive guy whereas Frost appears to be more two-way. I'm still not convinced Frost has met his offensive maximal output.

 

[BiggE]

For the Flyers?
Neither

Torts will trade both for some more shot blocking grinders.

 

[Larry44]

Hey!

I did a similar poll on here between Sanheim and Patrick a couple months ago and your fan base was one of the most helpful so here I am again with a new poll! I could post this in the poll section, but I'd rather have the opinion of fans who see them play a lot than the opinion of randoms.

So here we go: Which player do you expect to have the bigger impact over the next 5 years?

Thanks a lot for your input!

Is it team specific? There's a good chance neither of these guys plays in Philly again.

Yeah, I don’t see the Coots/Farabee comparison.

I see a Farabee/Ville Leino comparison...

 

[GKJ]

Farabee had the bigger impact on the ice.

Frost had a bigger impact on forum posts and social media engagement.

Hard to say which as been more important

 

[Deadpool8812]

I think Frost is more dynamic, and will be better in a few years.

Especially once we trade him

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Frost !

assuming he gets away from this shitstain Org.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

good read.

 

[Kermit the Prog]

I'm not voting because somebody will dig up this thread just like with that couts schenn poll

That'll never happen.

 

[captainpaxil]

This is not the bright future i envisioned

 

[prototypical4thliner]

This is not the bright future i envisioned

The provorov, ghost, sanheim and Morin gushing threads were probably the highlight. I hold no hope anymore.

 

[Curufinwe]

I found this thread when I was trying to find a post about why Farabee didn't play for the Flyers or Phantoms at the end of the 2019 season. I think it's a good bump and an interesting topic.

I didn't find anything to answer my question, apart from the fact the Flyers only had 6 games left when he signed his ELC so maybe they figured it wasn't worth the hassle.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Lol I thought this was new. Oops. Better poll now would be which gets traded first.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Lol I thought this was new. Oops. Better poll now would be which gets traded first.

i legit thought it was just posted.. hahaaa

seems fitting

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Trading Frost would be so Flyers. Trading from a position of weakness