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LW/RW Kirill Kaprizov - CSKA Moscow, KHL (2015, 135th, MIN)

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Looks like he put that shot between the Dmans shinpads, man such a quik and deadly shot i'm hoping he comes over as soon as he's allowed to.:nod:
 
Caser said:
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The D effed it up big time on this one of course. Three men converging on Grigorenko LOL while the D-man watches Kaprizov scoring from 2 meters away. Nonetheless, that was a Kaprizov©. Deadly shot.

For a much broader view from someone who watched his games this season. He comes as advertised. Even more mature and confident. Drives the line, drives the team, works his a.. off in all three zones, makes plays, scores, great at the boards. Without him CSKA is a middle of the pack team with no aspirations.
 
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vorky said:
There is another option as well. The NHL club to pay it. The KHL has no problem with it, the NHL has.

Yes, it is normal in other sport leagues.
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You gotta wonder if Minnesota struggles this year, if they consider paying off his contract with CSKA to bring him over. He's one of best players outside the NHL, wouldn't you go to any length to bring him over?
 
AmericanDream said:
I am aware he is under contract, just want him over here...and players do opt out of their contracts in the KHL..no? or, you have to be a certain age to opt out?
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He has to give 18 mos. notice, and buy out his contract. Wild can not do that for him.
 
JohnLennon said:
You gotta wonder if Minnesota struggles this year, if they consider paying off his contract with CSKA to bring him over. He's one of best players outside the NHL, wouldn't you go to any length to bring him over?
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By NHL rules the Wild can't pay his buyout.

If they could, he'd probably be getting ready for training camp right in MN right now.
 
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kp61c said:
yep, i remember how plotnkikov bought out his contract with his own money only to shortly go bust in the nhl. that was an epic fail. he was never the same player again
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I agree, that was sad, but Kirill Kaprizov is certainly no Plotnikov.
 
ThatGuy22 said:
By NHL rules the Wild can't pay his buyout.

If they could, he'd probably be getting ready for training camp right in MN right now.
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Kaprizov doesn't want to leave. If he wanted to leave he would not have signed an extension.
 
ThatGuy22 said:
By NHL rules the Wild can't pay his buyout.

If they could, he'd probably be getting ready for training camp right in MN right now.
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Probably the wrong board to ask, but what's hypothetically stopping a team from overpaying on the ELC with garbage bonuses as incentive for a player like this to get out of their own deal? And I know there's an 18 month window, so it's basically moot here but I'm curious. Or am I underestimating the cost of a buyout? It's basically like the club is covering it. I know there's incentive to get young players on a cheapo contract so you can collectively fit better players under the cap together, but even 3.775 mil a season for 3 years of Kaprizov isn't crazy if they could create the cap space. Especially when you consider the age of a lot of their big pieces and what it costs for players around his age on their post-elc deals. Staal, Parise, Suter, Dubnyk, Koivu. They do have youth and younger core pieces, but I feel like their current window is closing soon.
 
greasysnapper said:
Probably the wrong board to ask, but what's hypothetically stopping a team from overpaying on the ELC with garbage bonuses as incentive for a player like this to get out of their own deal? And I know there's an 18 month window, so it's basically moot here but I'm curious. Or am I underestimating the cost of a buyout? It's basically like the club is covering it. I know there's incentive to get young players on a cheapo contract so you can collectively fit better players under the cap together, but even 3.775 mil a season for 3 years of Kaprizov isn't crazy if they could create the cap space. Especially when you consider the age of a lot of their big pieces and what it costs for players around his age on their post-elc deals. Staal, Parise, Suter, Dubnyk, Koivu. They do have youth and younger core pieces, but I feel like their current window is closing soon.
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That would still basically be money out of Kaprisov's contract. There is a cap on performances bonuses (as well as guideleines for what they are for if I remember correctly), and Kaprizov is going to probably get all of them written into his contract, and will be given every chance to earn them. So he'd still be less the money.
 
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Fantomas said:
Kaprizov doesn't want to leave. If he wanted to leave he would not have signed an extension.
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While that certainly may be the case, unless i'm mistaken prior to his extension he was scheduled to make less than 100k last year. Them offering to redo that year already contracted for as a part of an extension certainly played a part in his motivation to extend I would think.

I wasn't a fly on the wall in the negotiations by any means, but it seems reasonable to that CSKA offered to go up towards a million in the 2017-2018 season, if he signed on for two more years. They were under no obligation to pay him a market rate without an extension.
 
if this is the kid developing in the KHL where he's comfy, I can wait a couple years. I won't like it, but I'll wait. We'll really need the help by then.
 
greasysnapper said:
Probably the wrong board to ask, but what's hypothetically stopping a team from overpaying on the ELC with garbage bonuses as incentive for a player like this to get out of their own deal? And I know there's an 18 month window, so it's basically moot here but I'm curious. Or am I underestimating the cost of a buyout? It's basically like the club is covering it. I know there's incentive to get young players on a cheapo contract so you can collectively fit better players under the cap together, but even 3.775 mil a season for 3 years of Kaprizov isn't crazy if they could create the cap space. Especially when you consider the age of a lot of their big pieces and what it costs for players around his age on their post-elc deals. Staal, Parise, Suter, Dubnyk, Koivu. They do have youth and younger core pieces, but I feel like their current window is closing soon.
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ELC boni are also capped. He'd still make less than with CSKA, but I think that's not the point. As isn't the buyout sum, which is 2/3 of the contract iirc. It's more the NHL not willing to give in to paying KHL teams.
 
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Atas2000 said:
ELC boni are also capped. He'd still make less than with CSKA, bit I think that's not the point. As isn't the buyout sum, which is 2/3 of the contract iirc. It's more the NHL not willing to give in to paying KHL teams.
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They are, they're capped at 2.85mil. I believe it could be negotiated that the schedule b bonus (player and club agreed upon bonuses) could be something really attainable.

What? He makes about a million with CSKA. There's not a chance he'd make less in the NHL. Even without a handshake bonus deal.
 
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