Toggle sidebar

LW/RW Denis Gurianov (2015, 12th, DAL)

  • Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
kp61c said:
that's a good comparison. why would they waste a second round pick on someone who plays in the khl and has no intentions of coming over (in the near future/ and god knows what happens in three-four years)? he'll go in the third round, book it.
Click to expand...

Pretty fruitless to speculate on what teams will do. It really just takes one team (such as Tampa) to make a decision on a player and take him at a particular point.

Very common for posters to totalize draft decisions in a way that makes things seem as if they occur by virtue of a shared consensus, which is far from the case. Teams do things unforeseen by other teams.

As I have said, someone might look at the Bunchnevich draft and take note of the fact that Pavel went in the third round, after the inferior Zykov, because of the lack of commitment. Or maybe not.

To be so confident that history merely repeats itself is more arrogance than logic.
 
Fantomas said:
So... how high does he climb into the top 30 now that he is dominating the u18 tournament?
Click to expand...

I have seen him play now three times at the u18 and he is clearly the most dominant Russian. Brings quite a good package and has an awesome shot
 
Denis Guryanov

Going to get my first chance to see him.play...the Russia-Switzerland quarterfinal is being shown on TSN.. Craig Button who gas Guryanov at a laughable #70 on his list when most consensus said at least late first...before the game just said Guryanov at 17 played against men this season in the Russian 2nd league and could be ready to play right away in the nhl next season..Thus the only reason he could have him as low as 70 is because of the so called "Russian factor"...but now before this game he just said you use that at your peril if you discount the Russian talent because of that..So Button is either a bandwagon guy or he is schizoid..Now he is praising Guryanov for his size physicality and great Shor. .Well you cannot have all that and be ranked #70..So Button is covering his behind realizing he made a terrible mistake
..Maybe Guryanov should be #7 not #70 ...I think he will be off the board in the first 15 picks. The size the skating the talent the shot and a good 200 foot player...too much there not to be a top 25 pick.
 
Over-rated. He's no Lawson Crouse. A Top 5 talent in this draft who could barely get point per game in the ohl. :sarcasm:

:laugh:
 
hawksfan50 said:
Going to get my first chance to see him.play...the Russia-Switzerland quarterfinal is being shown on TSN.. Craig Button who gas Guryanov at a laughable #70 on his list when most consensus said at least late first...
Click to expand...
consensus late first at least? before this tournament?

the only place where I've seen him in the first round so far is HockeyProspect.com (since January I think), at 27th.

Maybe I missed some rankings, but in all the other ones I've been going through in the past months I've seen him in the 50s - 80s range.

I guess that will change after this tournament.
 
I wonder if a team like Tampa takes this guy late in the 1st. Definitely seems like a 1st round talent but I guess there are concerns about him playing in the KHL. Tampa doesn't seem to worry too much about that stuff though and rather just go BPA.
 
Kyle Woodlief was on the local Oilers radio show and said that he has Guryanov as #8 on his list. Said he easily has top-10 talent and the only thing holding him back is the 'Russian factor'.
 
His skill was evident from the beginning, best Russian forward in this draft and a definite top 10 talent, some team will be getting themselves a steal picking him outside of the top 10.
 
wings5 said:
His skill was evident from the beginning, best Russian forward in this draft and a definite top 10 talent, some team will be getting themselves a steal picking him outside of the top 10.
Click to expand...

Seems a bit bold? I don't watch the KHL so I wouldn't know but there is a lot of talent in the top 10. Still think teams are stupid though for passing on skilled players just for the russian factor. Look at Tarasenko, Nichushkin, Kuznetsov, Buchnevich
 
hockeey said:
Seems a bit bold? I don't watch the KHL so I wouldn't know but there is a lot of talent in the top 10. Still think teams are stupid though for passing on skilled players just for the russian factor. Look at Tarasenko, Nichushkin, Kuznetsov, Buchnevich
Click to expand...

Legitimate size and offensive tools put him easily in the top half of the draft, check out his goal at 0:45 to see his hands at work. https://vimeo.com/125394620
 
wings5 said:
Legitimate size and offensive tools put him easily in the top half of the draft, check out his goal at 0:45 to see his hands at work. https://vimeo.com/125394620
Click to expand...

Yeah I could definitely see top half but I was just a bit skeptical on top 10. Buchnevich was in a similar situation in 2013 (Dropped cause of Russian factor) and I don't think he cracks top 10 for his draft year either. How does he compare to Buch?
 
Is the Russian factor a legitimate concern with him? Or is it simply based on his passport?

He's one of the prospects I like at the Leafs second 1st rounder. Granted I haven't seen that much of him.
 
hockeey said:
Yeah I could definitely see top half but I was just a bit skeptical on top 10. Buchnevich was in a similar situation in 2013 (Dropped cause of Russian factor) and I don't think he cracks top 10 for his draft year either. How does he compare to Buch?
Click to expand...

If we are doing a re-draft of the 2013 NHL Draft, I think he cracks the top 10-15. The first 7 or 8 are clear, but after that, it seems like a matter of personal opinion. After that first 7 or 8, its a bunch of very good prospects who haven't played yet in the NHL and are performing well elsewhere and a bunch of players who have played in the NHL, but haven't yet doing anything too great in the league.
 
hockeey said:
Yeah I could definitely see top half but I was just a bit skeptical on top 10. Buchnevich was in a similar situation in 2013 (Dropped cause of Russian factor) and I don't think he cracks top 10 for his draft year either. How does he compare to Buch?
Click to expand...

He won't go top 10 because of his Nationality but his talent is top 10. I prefer him over Meier, Crouse and Rantanen personally. Probably doesn't go first round though except for a team without concerns about him playing in Russia ( i.e Tampa ). Compared to Buchnevich from what I've seen Guryanov pushes the pace more than Buch who is more cerebral and plays more of a thinking game as well as a grittier game. Buch also frequently lines up at Center.
 
rangersfan9 said:
If we are doing a re-draft of the 2013 NHL Draft, I think he cracks the top 10-15. The first 7 or 8 are clear, but after that, it seems like a matter of personal opinion. After that first 7 or 8, its a bunch of very good prospects who haven't played yet in the NHL and are performing well elsewhere and a bunch of players who have played in the NHL, but haven't yet doing anything too great in the league.
Click to expand...

He have proven zero things until now, let's wait and see what he does when/IF he comes to play in the nhl
 
BomaLightDevils said:
He have proven zero things until now, let's wait and see what he does when/IF he comes to play in the nhl
Click to expand...

He's proven to be a very good player, whether or not he plays in the NHL. The numbers he put up in the KHL as a 19 year old have not been matched by many in the history of the KHL at that age.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Top Bottom