LW Cole Eiserman - Boston Univ., NCAA (2024, 20th, NYI)

[wetcoast]

I get what you are saying, and I think he's overscouted. People forget he's a few weeks away from being eligible for 2025.

That being said no one easily scores 50 in the NHL. Outside of Bédard, McDavid and Matthews , I don't think any prospect on recent memory could be safely projected to do so.

Well apparently the poster you are referring to thinks that Caufield is on the cusp of being a 50 goal guy so take it with a grain of salt.

Eiserman will be taken in the first round, I'm just glad my Canucks don't have a middle first round pick as he is one of those very high risk/reward guys for me and another team can have him.

 

[PanniniClaus]

I keep seeing Patrick O'Sullivan..

"It's just what Cole Eiserman does".

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Even then, Eiserman is not the type of player the Sharks need.

Every team needs goals

Well apparently the poster you are referring to thinks that Caufield is on the cusp of being a 50 goal guy so take it with a grain of salt.

Caufield has already put up 48 in 82, with half those goals coming from his rookie year.

314 shots this year. Shoulder injury is all that kept him from 50 this past season. If we apply the same shooting percentage as what he had before the injury he’d have had 51 goals this year.

I keep seeing Patrick O'Sullivan..

"It's just what Cole Eiserman does".

Patrick O’Sullivan… there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time.

 

[Peasy]

Caufield the new 50 goal scorer to never score 30 before ?

 

[Juxtaposer]

Every team needs goals


Caufield has already put up 48 in 82, with half those goals coming from his rookie year.

314 shots this year. Shoulder injury is all that kept him from 50 this past season. If we apply the same shooting percentage as what he had before the injury he’d have had 51 goals this year.


Patrick O’Sullivan… there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time.

The question is will Eiserman score enough goals at the NHL level to be worth how bad he is at literally every other aspect of hockey. Can he get himself into position to score goals in the NHL. Will he be okay enough at even strength that he will even see offensive zone time. At the U18, it often felt like his line was playing 4v5 at even strength because of how poor his involvement was. That stuff won’t fly at the NHL level.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The question is will Eiserman score enough goals at the NHL level to be worth how bad he is at literally every other aspect of hockey. Can he get himself into position to score goals in the NHL. Will he be okay enough at even strength that he will even see offensive zone time. At the U18, it often felt like his line was playing 4v5 at even strength because of how poor his involvement was. That stuff won’t fly at the NHL level.

Right. Which is why I think that it will largely depend on where he goes. If he's drafted by a team where there are mentors he can learn from with a good development program, then I think he can excel. If he winds up in a place where he's among many youngsters and there isn't a good system, I think he'll fail.

Needs to go to the right environment.

Caufield the new 50 goal scorer to never score 30 before ?

48 in 82 is nothing to sneeze at, split between two seasons or not, esp that young.

We'll have to see with that injury though. It greatly affected his shot. His shooting percentage in the midrange of the ice went from 18 to a putrid 5. That's unfathomly bad. And it could very well affect him next year too. Given the surgery, I'd be happy if he got 40 next year let alone 50.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

At the U18, it often felt like his line was playing 4v5 at even strength because of how poor his involvement was. That stuff won’t fly at the NHL level.

Yeah, I think this is a great point.

I don't have access to those fancy charts that you see for some NA junior prospects in the USHL and CHL that are out there. Maybe someone has them and I'm sure they are slightly flawed because they probably don't track every game and probably are tracked from hand as opposed to automatically by a computer, but I almost feel like if you had Eiserman's chart of his line mates from and away from him that almost all of them would do a lot better away from him, aside from maybe Hagens who can truly carry probably anyone and having a great finisher probably helps him. His line was very ineffective, and I've watched both of his line mates have a lot of success together the last two years. Just not with Eiserman.

If this is what it's like for him in junior, what's it going to be like when the competition is better? He may just not be that good at hockey, even if he continues to scores goals at a high rate.

 

[57special]

Right. Which is why I think that it will largely depend on where he goes. If he's drafted by a team where there are mentors he can learn from with a good development program, then I think he can excel. If he winds up in a place where he's among many youngsters and there isn't a good system, I think he'll fail.

Needs to go to the right environment.


48 in 82 is nothing to sneeze at, split between two seasons or not, esp that young.

We'll have to see with that injury though. It greatly affected his shot. His shooting percentage in the midrange of the ice went from 18 to a putrid 5. That's unfathomly bad. And it could very well affect him next year too. Given the surgery, I'd be happy if he got 40 next year let alone 50.

If he goes to a team like Minnesota/STL they will insist that he play both ways, or he won't see the ice. Then HFB'ers will complain that they aren't utilizing him correctly.

He is still very young, and will be going to a good college program. Hopefully he has a good experience there, and matures .

 

[Chainshot]

Caufield the new 50 goal scorer to never score 30 before ?

Brian "Mr. October" Savage would like a word about his crown.

If he goes to a team like Minnesota/STL they will insist that he play both ways, or he won't see the ice. Then HFB'ers will complain that they aren't utilizing him correctly.

He is still very young, and will be going to a good college program. Hopefully he has a good experience there, and matures .

He's probably a three-year collegiate player to try to build out all of the parts of his game if he can. There is so much missing though...

 

[tsujimoto74]

The question is will Eiserman score enough goals at the NHL level to be worth how bad he is at literally every other aspect of hockey. Can he get himself into position to score goals in the NHL. Will he be okay enough at even strength that he will even see offensive zone time. At the U18, it often felt like his line was playing 4v5 at even strength because of how poor his involvement was. That stuff won’t fly at the NHL level.

Kind of feels like some team is about to make Victor Olofsson a 1st round pick.

 

[Chainshot]

Kind of feels like some team is about to make Victor Olofsson a 1st round pick.

I've never thought Vic's body language screams "self-centered" though. Eiserman... yeaaaah, that's a knock.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Yeah, I think this is a great point.

I don't have access to those fancy charts that you see for some NA junior prospects in the USHL and CHL that are out there. Maybe someone has them and I'm sure they are slightly flawed because they probably don't track every game and probably are tracked from hand as opposed to automatically by a computer, but I almost feel like if you had Eiserman's chart of his line mates from and away from him that almost all of them would do a lot better away from him, aside from maybe Hagens who can truly carry probably anyone and having a great finisher probably helps him. His line was very ineffective, and I've watched both of his line mates have a lot of success together the last two years. Just not with Eiserman.

If this is what it's like for him in junior, what's it going to be like when the competition is better? He may just not be that good at hockey, even if he continues to scores goals at a high rate.

Again though, as much as the rest of his game needs work... he was still over a goal per game this year. All the stuff he's not good at can be coached. But goalscoring can't.

Can't say this enough: you draft a player for what you think he can be, not what he is now.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Again though, as much as the rest of his game needs work... he was still over a goal per game this year. All the stuff he's not good at can be coached. But goalscoring can't.

Can't say this enough: you draft a player for what you think he can be, not what he is now.

Right, and that’s why essentially nobody has him later than top 20. There’s a point in the draft where you can’t pass him up.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Kind of feels like some team is about to make Victor Olofsson a 1st round pick.

I’ve had that comparison in my head for a while. Not as a stylistic comp, but as what I think Eiserman will ultimately end up being: a PP specialist who ultimately doesn’t have all that long of a career.

 

[57special]

The more that is said and written about his guy, the more i get confused. Is he a bigger, faster Caufield, or the next Wahlstrom? I was going to say Hoffman, but he was a 5th round pick... different case.

I think teams should be able to suss this guy out pretty easily. If he is an egotistical, selfish, uncoachable player/personality that should be easily discovered by asking the right questions to their sources. If not, and he's just a normal guy he needs to work on some stuff, then you go for a goal scorer, right? It's not like Parekh is some slam dunk sure thing to be an effective NHL'ers, and doesn't have some warts in his game.

 

[Dead Coyote]

Personally, I don't think Eiserman possesses the shot that Caufield did.

A lot of Eiserman's goals come from the same spot on the PP and as you go up levels you need to find other ways because that will get pre-scouted and shut down.

There's very few times I saw Eiserman really over power a goalie. The release is quick and precise, which counts for something but there's a risk that the guy, with nothing else to really fall back on right now, can't even translate his one tool to the NHL.

That's absolutely not true. I don't know who you've been watching but it doesn't seem like it's Eiserman. He's good on the PP for sure but he scored goals all over the place in a large number of ways. You can't prescout someone who finds the loose puck in front of the net and bangs it home every time. You can't prescout someone who gets the puck in a tight space and then wires it past your goalie who couldn't save it even if he could see it. He will score plenty of goals off the rush on two man advantages or off the rush along the halfboards by using the defender as a screen. He'll also score plenty of goals by activating from the halfboards or point and driving to the net to pick up a loose puck or sneaking into a pocket of space. His shot is hard, fast, accurate and with a very quick release. His one timer is very powerful and precise. That alone will score him goals. Caufield has other things going for him like better skating and puck handling but nobody in this draft comes close to the sheer ability to score goals that Eiserman has.

 

[Dead Coyote]

Would be nice to see a reel of all the goals scored this year. I'd be interested in what % he was just purely the triggerman vs. ones he had an impact in creating himself.

This doesn't have all of them, but it has a lot of them. Very good breakdown of his offensive capabilities.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Again though, as much as the rest of his game needs work... he was still over a goal per game this year. All the stuff he's not good at can be coached. But goalscoring can't.

Can't say this enough: you draft a player for what you think he can be, not what he is now.

I think a lot of fans/media are being influenced on the "draft rankings". Make no mistake, there are lots of scouts who like what Eiserman brings to the table.

One of the youngest (like Iggy), and already has a NHL shot.

Demidov, Iggy, Eiserman are 3 of my targets. But I have Eiserman in the same group with Catton, Lindstrom, Sennecke. Demidov and Iggy in a waive ahead of them.

That's absolutely not true. I don't know who you've been watching but it doesn't seem like it's Eiserman. He's good on the PP for sure but he scored goals all over the place in a large number of ways. You can't prescout someone who finds the loose puck in front of the net and bangs it home every time. You can't prescout someone who gets the puck in a tight space and then wires it past your goalie who couldn't save it even if he could see it. He will score plenty of goals off the rush on two man advantages or off the rush along the halfboards by using the defender as a screen. He'll also score plenty of goals by activating from the halfboards or point and driving to the net to pick up a loose puck or sneaking into a pocket of space. His shot is hard, fast, accurate and with a very quick release. His one timer is very powerful and precise. That alone will score him goals. Caufield has other things going for him like better skating and puck handling but nobody in this draft comes close to the sheer ability to score goals that Eiserman has.

In terms of NHL shot. Iggy is close. So is Sennecke.

Don't have to agree but this video mentions Iggy's shot as close to Eiserman.

 

[Aom9]

This is a pretty solid profile on Eiserman:


Probably goes to the devils if he slips that far

 

[Dead Coyote]

One of the youngest (like Iggy), and already has a NHL shot.

Demidov, Iggy, Eiserman are 3 of my targets. But I have Eiserman in the same group with Catton, Lindstrom, Sennecke. Demidov and Iggy in a waive ahead of them.



In terms of NHL shot. Iggy is close. So is Sennecke.

Don't have to agree but this video mentions Iggy's shot as close to Eiserman.

In terms of shot, sure. No doubt Eiserman has the best shot in the draft. Iginla is a very similar player to him offensively as well, and overall much better than Eiserman in many aspects. But his shot isn't the only thing that makes Eiserman the best goalscorer in the draft. He's way more opportunistic than Iginla is, and his release is much better as well. Which, Iginla's release isn't even bad, it's quite good, it's just that Eiserman's is one of the best I've ever seen. No matter what situation he's in he can get a wicked shot off and his onetimers require no set up and he can score from anywhere. To a degree, that's the same as Iginla, Eiserman just does it better.

Defensively Iginla is much better and he's also a better playmaker and better on the cycle, and has also shown way more improvement than Eiserman.

But Eiserman is still just by far the best goal scorer in the draft because of the combination of his shot and ability to anticipate the play in the offensive zone and set himself up for easy plays with high percent danger shots. Iginla is also good at anticipating the play, but less selfish and often ends up scoring on more low percentage shots, I haven't seen him really feast on rebounds and go to the middle (without the puck) quite as much as Eiserman does. He tends to drive to the middle when he has the puck on his stick, but tends to focus on the boards and wall when he doesn't have the puck. Which is good, don't get me wrong. Eiserman however just goes to the middle constantly without the puck and is always looking for juicy rebounds. Iginla could potentially do the same as Eiserman does but he doesn't have as much of a goal scorer's mentality. He's probably the best approximation of Eiserman-lite offensively in the draft though, and does many other things Eiserman doesn't, so I could easily see having him ahead of Eiserman.

 

[Habs Halifax]

In terms of shot, sure. No doubt Eiserman has the best shot in the draft. Iginla is a very similar player to him offensively as well, and overall much better than Eiserman in many aspects. But his shot isn't the only thing that makes Eiserman the best goalscorer in the draft. He's way more opportunistic than Iginla is, and his release is much better as well. Which, Iginla's release isn't even bad, it's quite good, it's just that Eiserman's is one of the best I've ever seen. No matter what situation he's in he can get a wicked shot off and his onetimers require no set up and he can score from anywhere. To a degree, that's the same as Iginla, Eiserman just does it better.

Defensively Iginla is much better and he's also a better playmaker and better on the cycle, and has also shown way more improvement than Eiserman.

But Eiserman is still just by far the best goal scorer in the draft because of the combination of his shot and ability to anticipate the play in the offensive zone and set himself up for easy plays with high percent danger shots. Iginla is also good at anticipating the play, but less selfish and often ends up scoring on more low percentage shots, I haven't seen him really feast on rebounds and go to the middle quite as much as Eiserman does. He tends to drive to the middle when he has the puck on his stick, but tends to focus on the boards and wall when he doesn't have the puck. Which is good, don't get me wrong. Eiserman however just goes to the middle constantly without the puck and is always looking for juicy rebounds. Iginla could potentially do the same as Eiserman does but he doesn't have as much of a goal scorer's mentality. He's probably the best approximation of Eiserman-lite offensively in the draft though, and does many other things Eiserman doesn't, so I could easily see having him ahead of Eiserman.

Yup, I do think many are sleeping on Eiserman.

 

[coooldude]

Eiserman 'trying to round out my game' defensively ahead of NHL Draft | NHL.com

Forward set NTDP goal record, but play away from puck work in progress

www.nhl.com

 

[Wallet Inspector]

He's definitely an intriguing choice for the Sharks at #14. He does have very high upside, and SJ's forward group could be insane with him+Celebrini+their other forward prospects.

 

[ameselare]

He's definitely an intriguing choice for the Sharks at #14. He does have very high upside, and SJ's forward group could be insane with him+Celebrini+their other forward prospects.

Him and Celebrini put up some fun numbers together at Shattuck's in 20-21 and 21-22.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He's definitely an intriguing choice for the Sharks at #14. He does have very high upside, and SJ's forward group could be insane with him+Celebrini+their other forward prospects.

What’s his upside? How high is it?