Luongo was offer sheeted by Detroit in 2006

[jigglysquishy]

He was an incredibly nervous goalie (which he admits himself).

He spends half the podcast talking about his nerves and related bowel issues.

 

[Hobnobs]

You have to wonder how common it is someone gets offer-sheeted but declines to sign, and thus we (the public) never hear about it. Because normally we only hear about it when the player signs on, right?

I don't think it's as common nowadays but back in pre-cap era where players where RFAs til they were 65 there's probably loads of examples.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

He spends half the podcast talking about his nerves and related bowel issues.

Haven't heard that one. Kinda a Glenn Hall thing.

Man, that's such a paradoxical thing about life to be so athletically gifted at something that requires you to kind of never care about what's going to happen next, but also while having to guess fast enough to do your job well. That's why I hated being goalie. You can't just dig deeper and find another gear and suddenly you aren't playing an A game, but a B game at least and finding your value on the team that way.

 

[Michael Farkas]

"Forgetting" to mention that Legace was 5th in Vezina voting that year is just top-notch

Legace got a top-5 Vezina finish in one of his two starting seasons in the NHL, that speaks to the plug and play nature of the situation we're talking about.

I'm not convinced that this costs Rafalski, as I fairly easily fit him in. It's obviously a different reality, but the idea that they're decimated by this seems extreme. As if every re-signing wouldn't be adjusted a bit to help make room. They had a "Lidstrom cap", they were able to keep costs down because it was a destination spot.

I mean, Hossa dismissed $50 million and a chance to play with Crosby and Malkin to take a crack at Detroit...

I mean Farkas likes to talk about Osgood losing his job. So why not talk about Luongo losing his job the season after going to the cup finals?

Because it doesn't happen every three years in his career haha

 

[JackSlater]

Joseph definitely was a choker.

It's not just the choking in 2011 finals. He did the same thing in the Chicago series the year before and the year before that. He just didn't have the mental strength. He was an incredibly nervous goalie (which he admits himself).

I mean Farkas likes to talk about Osgood losing his job. So why not talk about Luongo losing his job the season after going to the cup finals?

Like I said I liked Luongo but between 08-13 he wasn't the best playoff goalie in the world. It's also incredible sad that his best playoff performances was wasted on losing causes (07 and 16).

I don't disagree really and that is mainly the reason that Luongo is held below the very best goaltenders of his time. In the specific player comparison here though it doesn't really matter to me because the gap is large enough. Marcel Dionne was a disappointing playoff performer, but I'd still take him over a non-star forward if I need a scoring center on my otherwise loaded team.

 

[Hobnobs]

Legace got a top-5 Vezina finish in one of his two starting seasons in the NHL, that speaks to the plug and play nature of the situation we're talking about.

No it does not. You just tried to describe him as some unknown inexperienced 32-year old because it fit your narrative.

 

[Johnny Engine]

Anyone else find themselves consistently surprised when Manny Legace's age is brought up? I remember around 2001, about the time Osgood was made redundant by the Hasek trade, Legace was also in the picture as - I wouldn't so much call it a "goalie of the future" role as a "goalie we have coming up that we're probably going to have to hand the workload to temporarily" type along the lines of Aebischer, Telqvist, Primeau...

But he's 28 years old at that point and only 3 months younger than Osgood.