Luongo was offer sheeted by Detroit in 2006

[JackSlater]

Even in the net for Canada, Luongo was shaky in important games most notable vs Slovakia and to a lesser extent Russia in 2010. Versus Russiathe lead was obviously so huge it didn't really matter.

Still don't get this idea that Luongo was this clutch goalie Red Wings would need to sacrifice depth for to win. He has never proven himself to be especially clutch. Is he a better goalie than Osgood? Obviously. Enough to off-set the differences in cap hits. Doubtful.

Pre-cap I would definitely replace Osgood with Luongo. I often argued replacing Osgood with a much better goalie which happened in '02. But in the cap era Osgoods much lower cap hit while still being a capable goalie allowed the Wings to build the type deep team they had.

Luongo was not great in that tournament, yes. Better than Brodeur at least. Otherwise he was generally excellent in the world championship with multiple championships, excellent when was was the WJC started on a mediocre Canadian team, excellent when he got suddenly thrown into the semi-finals of the 2004 World Cup with not so much notice.

I don't think that Detroit needed to sacrifice depth for goaltending. For all of his mistakes Holland at least recognized post-lockout that you pay your top forwards and defencemen and let the goaltending be something that doesn't sink you.

 

[Hobnobs]

Luongo was not great in that tournament, yes. Better than Brodeur at least. Otherwise he was generally excellent in the world championship with multiple championships, excellent when was was the WJC started on a mediocre Canadian team, excellent when he got suddenly thrown into the semi-finals of the 2004 World Cup with not so much notice.

I don't think that Detroit needed to sacrifice depth for goaltending. For all of his mistakes Holland at least recognized post-lockout that you pay your top forwards and defencemen and let the goaltending be something that doesn't sink you.

I like Luongo a lot so I agree with you.

Well as far as I could see at the numbers Farkas presented Wings definitely had to sacrifice a lot if Luongo signed the offer sheet.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Not sure why he didn't sign the Detroit offer sheet. This team just came off a 124 point campaign and was always a contender at that time. I don't know how much better the Wings are since they made the semis in 2007, won in 2008 and made the final in 2009. But maybe they stay longer as a contender with Luongo after 2009.

i’m guessing he knows vancouver would have matched basically anything and didn’t want to start his tenure on the wrong foot

 

[Gorskyontario]

Who cares about the Canucks? I'm a Detroit fan. Luongo spent years as a top five goalie in the NHL, including some of the timeframe included here. Osgood spent years as a generally average goaltender, sometimes worse.

Yet Luongo consistently choked in the playoffs.

 

[JackSlater]

Yet Luongo consistently choked in the playoffs.

I know that's the meme but I'd have loved to have seen Luongo behind post-lockout Detroit, as the team was. Somehow elite goaltenders who end up on very strong teams tend to end up labelled winners rather than losers or chokers.

 

[Gorskyontario]

I know that's the meme but I'd have loved to have seen Luongo behind post-lockout Detroit, as the team was. Somehow elite goaltenders who end up on very strong teams tend to end up labelled winners rather than losers or chokers.

No one calls CuJo or Vanbiesbrouck chokers.

People call Luongo a choker, because he choked consistently. Except for the 2010 olympics of course.

 

[JackSlater]

No one calls CuJo or Vanbiesbrouck chokers.

People call Luongo a choker, because he choked consistently. Except for the 2010 olympics of course.

You've never heard Curtis Joseph refrred to as a choker? That is... surprising. Luongo is of course better than Joseph.

The 2010 Olympics is not one of Luongo's highest points for international hockey. Again though, amazing what a loaded team in front can do for a goaltender's reputation regarding choking or not.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Yeah, if Luongo's first playoff series were with those Wings teams, he'd probably be revered as a winner and a money goalie.

Also, Osgood is not exactly someone I'd call Mr. Clutch.

And, "no one calls CuJo [a choker]"...literally makes less than zero sense. That's been said a zillion times haha

 

[GMR]

Goaltending was the problem in many losses during the 1990's. Legace in 2006 as well.

Cujo did fine and got a raw deal in Detroit in 2003 and 2004. That team gave him ZERO goal support when it mattered.

The 2007-2010 period was a fruitful period for the franchise. Osgood was a bright spot in the 2009 playoffs.

They're not winning in 2010 with Luongo. Chicago was a better team that year.

Maybe they win the Cup in 2007 but I didn't think Hasek was poor in that series against Anaheim. That team was the opposite of clutch in that series.

Maybe they win two Cups instead of one between 2007-2010, but that's probably it.