Value of: Luke Schenn to Toronto

[weaponomega]

The human eraser returns

 

[gritdash60]

Seems more like asset allocation is the concern.

Yeah fine, i get that.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

That’s just editing. I took some scars and blemishes off his face

f***in hell, I thought you were just lazy but thats some real talent!

 

[SI90]

f***in hell, I thought you were just lazy but thats some real talent!

Appreciate it!!

 

[Peter Griffin]

2nd+

 

[Boondock]

I would hope to get a 2nd for Schenn. He is almost league minimum for cap so any team could make the $ work. If it's less than a 2nd - there doesn't seem to be much incentive to the Nucks. I saw 2 x 3rd round picks, but I would try to hold out for a 2nd. A player drafted in the 2nd round historically has about a 30% chance of being a 200 game NHLer. That drops to about 10% in the 3rd round. I like the higher probability and the quality of player in the second round so I see the value. Otherwise keep Schenn with Hughes and see if he would re-sign in the off season again (hoping that living in Kelowna in the off season gives the Canucks a leg up in free agency).

 

[Morbo]

the Leafs need a more 2 way player if they do make a change on the blueline.

 

[Cogburn]

He's an ok depth guy. I wouldn't pay X for a depth guy. He's pretty meh, take Engvall for him.

We're not even talking the same sport, let alone being in the same ball park, for Schenn's value. A second round pick would be the minimum, and that would be from a subpar team. We have more reason to keep him, rather than move him, and frankly if you're acquiring him to play as a 7th D, you're better off taking your less significant assets elsewhere.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I feel like Schenn would be a good fit. not sure where he slots in but could we not use a guy that will hit everything in sight? feels like we are still missing that kind of player

 

[Tairy Greene]

I actually could see this happening, good fit if the price is reasonable.


If you build a team with the assumption they are all healthy at all times, you will have a bad time.

This season has been a worse case scenario for injuries to defense and the depth has stepped up just fine. I think Toronto uses any picks for a 2nd line winger or help on the 3rd line. I don't think Schenn cracks their top 6.

 

[cyris]

I actually could see this happening, good fit if the price is reasonable.


If you build a team with the assumption they are all healthy at all times, you will have a bad time.

No one is assuming the team will be healthy at all times. But we likely only have the assets for one or 2 moves. Why have one of those be to address something that isn’t a problem when you have places on the roster that is a problem even when the team is healthy.

I don’t have a problem spending assets to bring in a Dman but he better be good enough to push someone out of our top 6

 

[innitfam]

Evgvall for Schenn

Worthless for Vancouver.

 

[Raistlin]

i'd be shocked if Schenn doesnt fetch at least a '23 2nd

 

[dirtydanglez]

2nd + niemela

 

[Namikaze Minato]

2nd + niemela

holy f*** no. Neither of those alone for Schenn.

Edit: Well maybe the second, that would actual be fitting as a "price tag" but the leafs dont need to spend that type of asset on a 7th or more defenceman.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

I don’t think they would value him properly.

Look at what Sutter literally just said today about Luke.

Captain Luke Schenn

 

[MAB1]

I actually could see this happening, good fit if the price is reasonable.


If you build a team with the assumption they are all healthy at all times, you will have a bad time.

Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Liljegren
Sandin-Holl
Muzzin-Timmins
Benn-Mete

Ignoring Muzzin who's likely done in the NHL...Schenn would be what? maybe fighting for 7th best d-man on that group at best? And the difference between him and Timmins/Benn/Mete isn't worth 2nds or 3rds of whatever Canuck fans want.

 

[htpwn]

I would not mind Schenn. I think he's an upgrade on Timmins and can compete with Holl for a bottom-pairing role. But the price would have to reflect that #6-7 role. That is a 3rd round pick range, more-or-less what Lyubushkin cost to fill a similar role last year. Canucks fans seem to think that is too little, which... so be it.

 

[Pyrophorus]

2nd + niemela

noooooooo

In fact just say no to Schenn
Topi will be 10x the player Luke was and is.

 

[JKG33]

noooooooo

In fact just say no to Schenn
Topi will be 10x the player Luke was and is.

If you think that's true, just admit you haven't watched schenn play in Vancouver

 

[ToDavid]

I don't think there's a deal here. IMO Leafs don't need him enough to pay what the Canucks could probably get from other teams.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

If you think that's true, just admit you haven't watched schenn play in Vancouver

I was at the game on saturday, does this make you feel better or worse about watching Schenn in Vancouver?

 

[banks]

I like Schenn, and would be happy to have him back as a Leaf at some point. But Timmins joining Toronto just means there's no more room on the roster for Luke now.

Maybe if all VAN wants is a spare depth forward like Engvall, or maybe as a UFA in the offseason.

 

[RutherPlan]

It will cost a first round draft pick. There is no desire to trade Schenn from Canucks side.

 

[EverTheCynic]

I think that's what it would take.

You're not getting Schenn for less than a 2nd. To outbid other teams if he's moved, you'll likely have to add a small piece to the 2nd. Like a 4thor 5th or something.

If two 3rds is the best offer, we may as well just keep him.