Time to call a spade a spade. No way to argue otherwise. Dude hasn't scored a goal in over 40 games despite averaging 13 minutes a night. I honestly don't see the appeal of this player beyond this season. If he didn't go to Michigan and wasn't born in Grand Rapids he likely wouldn't be in the NHL. There's no reason Glendening should have been called up over Ferraro.
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He's a 4th liner who plays with energy who can kill penalties quite well. Put him in that role and there's nothing to complain about.
Pretty much, yes. He plays his role. He's also a rookie. I don't get the point of this thread to be honest.
WesNichols14
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I disagree he's a good PK guy, who brings energy and is hard on the puck. all the while pissing off the other teams players. and lets not forget he is always blocking shots. He's a 4th line guy who because of injuries has had an expanded role. I still don't understand why he and Sheahan have not been paired up on the PK. since they are the top 2 pk guys we have on the roster. if we had Pav and Z he would only play 8 minutes a night and would look good. but because he is forced to play in a role he's not meant for (3rd line, which is supposed to provide depth scoring) he looks bad.
the bad signing here was Miller. Glendening is being groomed for that role where as Lando and Callahan are the other 2 on that line. providing a tough hard hitting line that can put the hurt on opponents top lines.
the bad signing here was Miller. Glendening is being groomed for that role where as Lando and Callahan are the other 2 on that line. providing a tough hard hitting line that can put the hurt on opponents top lines.
He will never be anything more than a 4th line pest, but he could perform that role pretty well. He is already solid defensively and on the PK. He needs to become better in the dot, if he does that there will always be a coach that wants him on their fourth line. My only complaint about him is I just wish in the Offensive zone he would try to just shoot the puck and then crash the net with his linemates instead of looking for a nifty pass or trying a move on a defender.
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Would be a lot better off playing right wing. I don't think he is useless, he gets his role and is very responsible defensively. The fact he is a tireless worker is probably going to help as he continues improving. I wouldn't bet against him just yet, he is only supposed to be a good fourth liner anyway.
If you measure a 4th line player who is a mainstay on the pk by the number of goals he has scored you do not understand the game of hockey. Sure it would be nice to have someone that can pot a few goals every now and then but you cannot always have a team full of drapers and maltbys.
He does his job.
He does his job.
Better than Emmerton, but when people are healthy the guy literally has no spot on the team. He is outclassed by at least 5 different centers.
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Glendening is a good 4th-liner. You need 4th-liners. Young, has energy, drive, can PK with the best of them, intelligent, a good leader, a pest, has speed to burn, works hard, hits. I really don't see what the issue is here, unless the OP is strictly angling for Ferraro being better. Which, maybe he is, maybe he isn't. But isn't the hope with Ferraro that he'll be good enough to play above the 4th line?
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That was my first thought, he is far better than Emmerton. Should he have a spot on the 4th line? I do not know yet.
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Not to really agree or disagree here, but two points...
1. Glendening can play any forward position.
2. When everyone is healthy, who is your 4th-line? I can see Glendening being left out, but I don't think it's automatic. The only potential 4th-liners on the roster, imo, are Glendening, Miller, Andersson, and Bertuzzi/Cleary (neither of which I think have any future here). Ferraro and Callahan are in the pipeline, but both have to first prove themselves. After that, you have to put skilled kids on the 4th line, which everyone would go bonkers over. So while there are a lot of options, I really wouldn't be surprised to see Glendening, Miller, and Andersson as the 4th line next year or the year after.
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We have this thread but don't have the same thread about Emmerton? At least Glenda does something better than everyone else on the team - he actually agitates. Emmerton does nothing well and Andersson is only helpful as a faceoff specialist.
Sadly, it would take combining all 3 of them to give us a great 4th line center.
Sadly, it would take combining all 3 of them to give us a great 4th line center.
Ideally the top 3 lines are centered by a combination of Z, D, Sheahan, Weiss, Legwand.
The fourth line is centered by Helm, who brings far more than Glendening. I can't believe I'm saying this, but in comparison to Glendening, Helm has a scoring touch. He's way faster as well. The only thing Glendening brings that Helm doesn't is that agitator side, but I put way less value on that compared to speed and scoring. Depth scoring is how you win games.
I don't know if I'd rather have Andersson over Glendening. The speed difference is huge, but from what I've seen in the games, Andersson has the advantage in faceoffs. Which is a pretty key part of being a centerman. Considering they fill the same role and would only see limited 4th line minutes anyway, I think it doesn't matter too much if which one plays there.
Versus Helm though? Both of those guys sit for Helm.
He has only shown a 4th line skillset so far, and if he's not playing center that leaves 2 wing spots.
I guess this is an answer to your second part, but I fill out the top9 with guys like Z, D, Franzen, Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Weiss, Alfie, Legwand, (MANTHA???) That's plenty. Hell, throw in Abby if you want. Fourth line can be filled with Helm, Miller, (Abby?) Ferraro, Glendening, Andersson, Callahan. At this point, I'd go with Helm, Miller, Abby. I'd go with Glendening over Andersson if we're talking wing. And I'd rather see what Ferraro and Callahan can bring on the fourth line. By most accounts, they play a fast, gritty game with a bit of a scoring touch.
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your right that was bad on my part, there was no way to know Glendening would be able to replace him this year. I guess I should of said the length of his contract was bad. Miller is a good 4th liner on any team, and has shown in the past that he has the ability to get on a roll offensively and provide depth
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Even as a 4th liner, one should still have a goal after 535 minutes of ice time. I like what he brings to the table on the defensive side of the puck, hope he works on finishing in the off-season.
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Miller, Andersson, Emmerton, and Glendening are all pretty useless. Miller's PK skills are the only thing keeping him in the NHL...if it were up to me that wouldn't be enough to keep him around...I surely wouldn't be handing him a 3 year extension like Kenny boy....Just not a fan of Miller at all. Would much rather see Callahan in his spot.
Emmerton is as soft as tissue paper and completely useless at both ends of the ice. I cannot ****ing believe they prefer playing him instead of seeing what Ferraro can do.
I like the pest part of Glendenings game, does a good job of getting underneath his opponents skin. I don't mind him on the 4th line but his complete lack of any offensive ability is a problem.
Andersson is a decent all around player but his skating is so bad that it limits his impact.
Emmerton is as soft as tissue paper and completely useless at both ends of the ice. I cannot ****ing believe they prefer playing him instead of seeing what Ferraro can do.
I like the pest part of Glendenings game, does a good job of getting underneath his opponents skin. I don't mind him on the 4th line but his complete lack of any offensive ability is a problem.
Andersson is a decent all around player but his skating is so bad that it limits his impact.
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thats because he's a wing. the fact that if the center gets thrown out he can take a draw is a plus!
does no one else remember the story about how he had never played center until last year when Grand Rapids needed one and he said he could play center to get the call up. he worked his ass off and has been improving in the dot.
hell his last few games he's been pretty good in the dot
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He's a 4th line winger who's being overused by Babcock. He's pretty useful in small doses, and I think he'll get better over time. He's a useful player, but he won't ever be the guy Babcock thinks he is.
And if Datsyuk, Z, Weiss, Helm and Andersson weren't hurt he would probably be in Grand Rapids. It is what it is.
Glendening is a bottom pairing forward and one of the best PKing forwards Detroit actually has. His skillset is great for any team's 4th line, or at the very least fill in forward. His offensive ability obviously hasn't developed to the NHL level yet, but he's a dependable bottom line forward. I don't really know what you expect from him, but he's good in a bottom line role with PK time. He's better than his zero goals indicate. He's also 24 years old and 40 games into his rookie season in the NHL after being a huge piece of the Griffins Calder Cup run and playing very well in the limited AHL time he played this year. He'll score eventually, but until then, at least he is useful in SOME role. Look at a player like Emmerton. Dude isn't killing a ton of penalties, and he isn't scoring a ton of goals, and he isn't a shutdown defensive forward. What good is he? Glendening at least has a role that he is pretty good at.
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