Proposal: lucas raymond for leo carlsson

[deca guard]

thoughts ?

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[Perratrooper]

Anaheim isn’t moving Carlson for anything outside an extreme overpay.

This is not that.

 

[stevo61]

Anaheim says hell no

 

[AssaultPK]

thoughts ?

"why?"

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

thoughts ?

This is one of those thoughts you prob just keep to yourself

You just don’t trade a Leo carlsson, specially for a downgrade.

Very few pieces in the league I’d consider moving carlsson for

 

[UnSandvich]

Tbh I don’t see why either team does this. Why is Detroit subtracting one of the best young players on a team that missed the playoffs due to a tiebreaker? Why is Anaheim trading their best prospect for an older guy with an arguably lower ceiling when they finished 30th in the league this year

 

[Gliff]

My thoughts are there should be some upside for both teams to even consider this.

This ain’t it. Leo isn’t going anywhere.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Neither team does this.

 

[Golden_Jet]

thoughts ?

What are your thoughts, if starting a thread.

Think Anaheim passes.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

My thoughts are there should be some upside for both teams to even consider this.

This ain’t it. Leo isn’t going anywhere.

Unfortunately I think we’re going to get a lot of these threads involving zegras carlsson mctavish gauthier and potentially who we pick this year if it’s a forward

 

[57special]

I don't get where this is an insulting offer. Raymond is a terrific young player. I just don't think that it is a realistic scenario, for either team. Seems more like the OP wants to gauge the value of the players involved more than anything.

This non aligned poster thinks that it is an even swap, but also that there is no reason for it to be done for either team.

Zegras being traded... that i can see. Carlsson, not so much.

 

[CBJx614]

Just close this, this won't end well. Leo isn't getting traded for any realistic offer that a team would offer.

 

[Gliff]

Just close this, this won't end well. Leo isn't getting traded for any realistic offer that a team would offer.

Thats not how this works. We get gaslit for 500 posts and then it gets bumped every week or so with proposals to an original 6 team for pennies.

 

[CBJx614]

Thats not how this works. We get gaslit for 500 posts and then it gets bumped every week or so with proposals to an original 6 team for pennies.

Oh trust me, I get it. You're talking to a Jackets fan, we constantly get a "give us core players for depth pieces / long shot prospects" weekly.

Even worse then getting old threads bumped are constant new ones asking the same thing.

Although in this scenario I think Wings and Duck fans can agree neither team would do this.

 

[anezthes]

No.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I don't get where this is an insulting offer. Raymond is a terrific young player. I just don't think that it is a realistic scenario, for either team. Seems more like the OP wants to gauge the value of the players involved more than anything.

This non aligned poster thinks that it is an even swap, but also that there is no reason for it to be done for either team.

Zegras being traded... that i can see. Carlsson, not so much.

Yeah I see it as pointless more so than insulting. Obviously not a conversation that's taking place IRL right now, so I don't know why OP is wasting time thinking about it. Just inevitably going to create an unnecessary debate over these team's young players.

 

[eojsmada]

Both teams say no, but especially Detroit. They have a legit developed goal scorer on their hands. Anaheim isn't at the point in their rebuild where they can afford to lose Carlsson, even for someone like Raymond. It won't accelerate their timeline because they are very deficient at a number of places.

 

[majormajor]

I think Detroit actually says yes. Leo profiles as a franchise center. The upside is just too far above, even though Raymond is great. It would hurt for a year or two while Leo catches up but I don't think Yzerman says no to this.

Obviously it would be a no from Anaheim.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Both teams say no, but especially Detroit. They have a legit developed goal scorer on their hands. Anaheim isn't at the point in their rebuild where they can afford to lose Carlsson, even for someone like Raymond. It won't accelerate their timeline because they are very deficient at a number of places.

I think there is a world where redwings would want something like this, but it depends on how high they are on kasper/danielson as potential top 6 centers…. Right now you can argue center is a spot go weakness for the wings.

For Anaheim we need a top 6 winger, but I think we see carlsson as our 1c going forward…. Very rarely will you see a 1c moved. I think we’re trying to add a top 6 winger without taking anything off the roster.

Ultimately tho there’s maybe 5 players in the league I’d consider moving Leo for at this point

 

[eojsmada]

I think there is a world where redwings would want something like this, but it depends on how high they are on kasper/danielson as potential top 6 centers…. Right now you can argue center is a spot go weakness for the wings.

For Anaheim we need a top 6 winger, but I think we see carlsson as our 1c going forward…. Very rarely will you see a 1c moved. I think we’re trying to add a top 6 winger without taking anything off the roster.

Ultimately tho there’s maybe 5 players in the league I’d consider moving Leo for at this point

Can be argued, for sure...but not until both Kasper and Danielson bust out.

 

[RedHawkDown]

No point to this for both teams. I don’t do it as Detroit either. We need to start competing ASAP and Raymond looks to be in the cusp of hitting 90 pt potential. Anaheim isn’t competing imminently so they stick with Carlssons sky high potential.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

No point to this for both teams. I don’t do it as Detroit either. We need to start competing ASAP and Raymond looks to be in the cusp of hitting 90 pt potential. Anaheim isn’t competing imminently so they stick with Carlssons sky high potential.

I actually think we’ll be where Detroit is this year with the right moves this offseason

 

[HairyKneel]

thoughts ?

Why the hell would Anaheim do this? Terrible proposal.

 

[McRpro]

Both teams say "Nah". Anaheim moreso.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

thoughts ?

No from Detroit. You've never brought anything remotely interesting to the table.

Detroit likes Raymond a lot. Anaheim likes Carlsson a lot. We need to add to Raymond. Even adding a C for him just moves a strength from W to C without a good way to replenish that.