Value of: Looking for defense, but just gauging...

[Mase]

Frank Vatrano, Owen Tippett, Gregori Denisenko, and Noel Serron as trade bait? As a package, individually, or with certain draft picks/cap dumps.

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[BKarchitect]

Depends what you are looking for. I’m not sure combined there’s much juice there outside of Tippett. And he’s not a good enough centerpiece for a true top level guy.

Denisenko and a pick seems like a package that would fetch a quality rental upgrade from a rebuilding team. Or Vatrano straight across for a useful depth defender of similar value?

What are the Panthers shopping for?

 

[HoseEmDown]

Seattle has Giordano, Soucy, Fluery and Lauzon as options that could be had. Giordano is an UFA next year so is a rental and they can retain or take a contract back. Soucy and Fluery are signed next season at fairly cheap and Lauzon is a RFA this summer. They should be interested in young offensive talent back, I would say the order of interest would be Tippett, Denisenko then Noel. Giordano should be the one they trade and I would ask Tippett plus a pick.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Calvin de hann cheap rental acquisition wise. Connor Murphy maybe?

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Frank Vatrano, Owen Tippett, Gregori Denisenko, and Noel Serron as trade bait? As a package, individually, or with certain draft picks/cap dumps.

What kind of defenseman?

 

[shortfuze]

Vatrano or Tippett for Travis Dermott? I’d rather Tippett though.

 

[Vinman88]

Gavrikov for Vatrano and a 3rd in 2022

 

[elitepete]

Gavrikov for Vatrano and a 3rd in 2022

So bad for Columbus.

 

[elitepete]

If you are looking for a bottom pairing d, the following Canucks may be available:
Hamonic
Schenn
Burroughs
Poolman (don't think you'd want his contract though)

 

[McJedi]

Frank Vatrano, Owen Tippett, Gregori Denisenko, and Noel Serron as trade bait? As a package, individually, or with certain draft picks/cap dumps.

Giordano would be a sweet addition. Offer Tippett.

 

[FameFlame069]

Id say Gudbranson for future consideratios (y'all make the playoffs and he plays in 50% of the playoffs games we get a 7th,if not zippo)

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I'd say Barrie for Tippett but we already have 1 too many Tippett's.

 

[rt]

Frank Vatrano, Owen Tippett, Gregori Denisenko, and Noel Serron as trade bait? As a package, individually, or with certain draft picks/cap dumps.

I bet Arizona would be willing to retain 50% on local boy Shayne Gostisbehere to get their hands on a Tippett/Denisenko level asset.

 

[bernmeister]

IF IF IF
he would waive early, what would you offer for Trouba?

can do expiring for this yr cap but then need real cap relief and decent quality return

btw I don't expect him to even consider going right now, but FL is a good relocation as discussed and Panthers are making a strong push for the cup.

Rangers should not be foolish impulsive all in now, set up instead to come back stronger after this yr

 

[Boondock]

IF IF IF
he would waive early, what would you offer for Trouba?

can do expiring for this yr cap but then need real cap relief and decent quality return

btw I don't expect him to even consider going right now, but FL is a good relocation as discussed and Panthers are making a strong push for the cup.

Rangers should not be foolish impulsive all in now, set up instead to come back stronger after this yr

With the $10 million extension for Barkov starting next season and currently only $4.5 million in cap space next season with 6-7 players needed to be signed, I don’t see the Panthers wanting to add another $8million dollar defender. This would also make resigning Hubby (after next year) difficult. I like Trouba but his contract, his nmc and personal reasons for wanting to sign in NY will significantly reduce the number of trade options for Trouba right now.

 

[Mrfenn92]

IF IF IF
he would waive early, what would you offer for Trouba?

can do expiring for this yr cap but then need real cap relief and decent quality return

btw I don't expect him to even consider going right now, but FL is a good relocation as discussed and Panthers are making a strong push for the cup.

Rangers should not be foolish impulsive all in now, set up instead to come back stronger after this yr

Cap won’t work for Florida

 

[PettersonHughes]

If you are looking for a bottom pairing d, the following Canucks may be available:
Hamonic
Schenn
Burroughs
Poolman (don't think you'd want his contract though)

Any of the 3 who aren't bolded would be available, Luke's looked pretty good next to Quinn Hughes.

Burroughs can play both sides, Hamonic's missed time due to COVID and travel restrictions (only vaxxed later) but is stable defensively at least. Poolman honestly is meh (does occasionally make risky rushes and passes) but then again OP's offering fringe roster guys and projects so maybe there's something there?

Hamonic (when healthy) for Vatrano + Noel maybe? The others aren't really what Vancouver needs (Vatrano's good but smallish and only included him for cap balancing reasons [hopefully can flip him down the road], and we don't really need more skilled wingers).

 

[elitepete]

Any of the 3 who aren't bolded would be available, Luke's looked pretty good next to Quinn Hughes.

Burroughs can play both sides, Hamonic's missed time due to COVID and travel restrictions (only vaxxed later) but is stable defensively at least. Poolman honestly is meh (does occasionally make risky rushes and passes) but then again OP's offering fringe roster guys and projects so maybe there's something there?

Hamonic (when healthy) for Vatrano + Noel maybe? The others aren't really what Vancouver needs (Vatrano's good but smallish and only included him for cap balancing reasons [hopefully can flip him down the road], and we don't really need more skilled wingers).

Rather just get a 3rd/4th for Hamonic.

 

[jgimp]

Depending on where Winnipeg is sitting come the TDL, I could see Dillon being available, maybe Schmidt and/or DeMelo. One of those guys will be a cap casualty.

 

[CraigsList]

Valimaki for Denisenko or Tippett? Maybe a small plus from Florida?

 

[WingsMJN2965]

FLA's 1st for Leddy with 50% retention?

Shit, y'all don't have a 1st. 2023?

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

How about...

FLA 1st 2023, FLA 2nd 2022, Denisenko

for

Burns (50% retained)

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Chiarot for Samoskevich and a 3rd

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Miller is available but we’re not trading him to you. We’re trying to not have the Florida pick be #31 or #32

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

Subban with double retention is available. $2.25M after that.