London Knights 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part VII

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Former Oshawa D.

He was good, real good too! "Bobby Jesus"

 

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Related to Jose' , you know the guy that goes to all the games and all the fans are concerned if he has a good view of the game or not? They always sing out at the start of every game " José can you see". You know that guy.

What! You have one in Windsor too?

 

[Knights Watcher]

6-2 London with 2 empty netters

You sure were closer than I was.
Great showing last night. Dominated 5 on 5.
Keep it up for Sunday

 

[crowncarrier]

That is not in question. The comment was why was the retaliation let go? In both cases mentioned the penalty to the Knights was indeed deserved but the retaliation to said infraction was completely ignored. It’s not open season to retaliate to a penalty that has already been called. But in this tournament where the Knights are concerned it is. Lesson is don’t take the original penalty.

I get that but he was barely touched compared to how the Knight retaliated and it was a different game.

 

[crowncarrier]

It's hard to imagine he would not fit in their plans since they were the worst team in the NHL this year. I would think Kasper will be there as well. They have a good young group they can build around and will need to throw in some seasoned vets to help these "kids" develop. I like their prospects for the next few years building around Cellibrini as opposed to Chicago and Bedard - who I am still not totally sold on.

Don't forget Halttunen scored 2 goals on his first two shots in the AHL and played only 6 games there and was shipped back to London. This is at the AHL level and having the option of him staying with the Barracuda. Dickinson can only play in the OHL or the NHL. San Jose has a ton of young talent and I do not see them rushing players. Celebrini being drafted 1st over all was/is a different case as he's obviously a level above and they need to put ass's in the seats. They do not need Dickinson to get more people to their games. I can admit Sam has improved a heck of a lot but another year will not hurt his development or San Jose's wallet.....but I also will not be surprised if he sticks as long as he plays like he has been.

 

[tjziel]

Don't forget Halttunen scored 2 goals on his first two shots in the AHL and played only 6 games there and was shipped back to London. This is at the AHL level and having the option of him staying with the Barracuda. Dickinson can only play in the OHL or the NHL. San Jose has a ton of young talent and I do not see them rushing players. Celebrini being drafted 1st over all was/is a different case as he's obviously a level above and they need to put ass's in the seats. They do not need Dickinson to get more people to their games. I can admit Sam has improved a heck of a lot but another year will not hurt his development or San Jose's wallet.....but I also will not be surprised if he sticks as long as he plays like he has been.

Dickinson won’t be back, and rightfully so. The difference between Halttunen and Dickinson is that the Barracuda were a deep team and it’s still a league where if you don’t rightfully play your way up the lineup, seniority still rules… so AHL veterans get the nod first as opposed to AHL rookies.

Then Mike Grier felt that it was better getting playing time with the Knights than being on the 3rd or 4th line on the Barracuda.

Sam Dickinson is too big, strong and fast to “need” to be back in the OHL. As evidence by him rushing up the ice last night and dishing to BMO. Nobody was catching him, and nobody was gonna push him off the puck.

The NHL and World Juniors is the proper step with him. If he comes back after the World Juniors and pulls a “Brandt Clarke”, we would be lucky to have him.

 

[Buttsy]

Don't buy into the doomsdayers

Agreed people inherently don’t like change. Sometimes change can be a good thing. IMO the leagues are two very different animals (NCAA vs CHL) with one ALL practice few games the other ALL Games and fewer practices. Each league has its pros and cons and each league fits a “need”. But it’s apples to oranges really with neither necessarily better than the other?

 

[Otto]

Submitted for your approval

 

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London has one team focus for tomorrow's game. To win what they didn't last year, a big Silver Memorial Cup, followed by Gatorade shower for Dale.

 

[SaneKnightsfsn]

I get that but he was barely touched compared to how the Knight retaliated and it was a different game.

What are you tslking about. This was my post if you read what I said both knights penalties were ok calls but the retaliation to the knights players went uncalled . Just because you commit a penalty shouldn’t be free for all on that player. And if it is it should have been called. Neither Van Gorp or Cowan were barely touched ??? Are you joking ?? Cowan had 4 players jump him watch the replay that Tsn didn’t even comment on cause there chicken s— to do so . Cowan got cross checked and punched numerous times . And again look at the replay of the vangorp penalty, the defense man had his hand on vangorps back . Pushed him in then when Vangorp down on his back in the net the same defender that pushed him into his own goalie is somehow pissed at Vangorp and gave him the stick and fist at least 3 times . No retaliatory call yet again . Really puts a spotlight to me on the agenda for calls .

 

[M21]

What are you tslking about. This was my post if you read what I said both knights penalties were ok calls but the retaliation to the knights players went uncalled . Just because you commit a penalty shouldn’t be free for all on that player. And if it is it should have been called. Neither Van Gorp or Cowan were barely touched ??? Are you joking ?? Cowan had 4 players jump him watch the replay that Tsn didn’t even comment on cause there chicken s— to do so . Cowan got cross checked and punched numerous times . And again look at the replay of the vangorp penalty, the defense man had his hand on vangorps back . Pushed him in then when Vangorp down on his back in the net the same defender that pushed him into his own goalie is somehow pissed at Vangorp and gave him the stick and fist at least 3 times . No retaliatory call yet again . Really puts a spotlight to me on the agenda for calls .

100% accurate explanation of the non calls on the retaliation. Zero doubt if both situations were the Moncton player with the original infraction and the Knights player with the retaliation we would have seen 4 on 4 hockey in both cases. This is not Knights fans complaining but stating fact. With that said the team has to ignore the one sided officiating. Kill the penalties as best they can. And play like they did in the third period the last game. Good luck boys and let’s hope you achieve the goal you set out for yourself at the beginning of the year.

 

[crowncarrier]

What are you tslking about. This was my post if you read what I said both knights penalties were ok calls but the retaliation to the knights players went uncalled . Just because you commit a penalty shouldn’t be free for all on that player. And if it is it should have been called. Neither Van Gorp or Cowan were barely touched ??? Are you joking ?? Cowan had 4 players jump him watch the replay that Tsn didn’t even comment on cause there chicken s— to do so . Cowan got cross checked and punched numerous times . And again look at the replay of the vangorp penalty, the defense man had his hand on vangorps back . Pushed him in then when Vangorp down on his back in the net the same defender that pushed him into his own goalie is somehow pissed at Vangorp and gave him the stick and fist at least 3 times . No retaliatory call yet again . Really puts a spotlight to me on the agenda for calls .

I 100% agree there's an agenda with the refs versus the knight. Don't get me wrong. But, when I saw Vangorp go into the goalie he did so 95% on his own....in my opinion. Ok halfway writing this I just went back and re-watched the Van Gorp penalty. He was already crashing into the goalie when he was crosschecked by Johanssen...then Johanssen gave him two little jabs and a slash. Sorry the ref is going to take the guy hitting the goalie that's in a vulnerable position every time over a guy giving him a few jabs and a slash for doing so. That was the right call.

 

[LDN]

Get it done boys! Go Knights Go

 

[rve24]

Game Day!!!!!

 

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I 100% agree there's an agenda with the refs versus the knight. Don't get me wrong. But, when I saw Vangorp go into the goalie he did so 95% on his own....in my opinion. Ok halfway writing this I just went back and re-watched the Van Gorp penalty. He was already crashing into the goalie when he was crosschecked by Johanssen...then Johanssen gave him two little jabs and a slash. Sorry the ref is going to take the guy hitting the goalie that's in a vulnerable position every time over a guy giving him a few jabs and a slash for doing so. That was the right call.

I watched the penalty again, too. I wish I could have seen Van Gorp's play on Rousseau from a different angle. The forward movement of Van Gorp seemed to have stopped, and MacKinnon pushed Van Gorp, who was now off balance. A different angle on this penalty would have clarified this. Having said that, we have to side with the referees on this call because they lacked the backup angle as well, and the push wasn't very strong.

 

[Knights77]

I am not one to complain about penalties against. You need to play physical and on the edge. Thats Knights hockey. However, I do think Knights ownership need to review and submit something to the league about the number of embellishment calls against the Knights. This is a call that rarely goes against other teams but I don’t recall seeing it called as many times as it was this past year. It’s very arbitrary and I think refs have it in their head that it’s a reputation thing. Either call the penalty or let it go. Don’t need to take both unless it’s embarrassingly obvious embellishment which almost all have not been.
Dickinson has been fantastic in many ways, but the amount he gives away the puck, ices the puck too….just because he’s had 4 good games in a row doesn’t mean he’s a lock for the NHL now. Still don’t think he’s ready for the NHL. But we will see.

 

[Harley49]

Let’s Get it Started!!! Go Knights!!!

 

[Holden Caufield]

Have you looked at San Jose’s Defense depth chart? Prospects included? Dickinson will play 20+ mins for them next year.


But more importantly he is going to be wearing the green and gold and playing 30 mins tonight.

Hopefully Knights jump out to a hungry/fast start like we have been seeing all tournament. Last years Memorial cup final they sat on their heels and it was evident from puck drop.
New year, new team…. New result ? Let’s hope so, Go Knights !!!

 

[BobHockey]

I am not one to complain about penalties against. You need to play physical and on the edge. Thats Knights hockey. However, I do think Knights ownership need to review and submit something to the league about the number of embellishment calls against the Knights. This is a call that rarely goes against other teams but I don’t recall seeing it called as many times as it was this past year. It’s very arbitrary and I think refs have it in their head that it’s a reputation thing. Either call the penalty or let it go. Don’t need to take both unless it’s embarrassingly obvious embellishment which almost all have not been.
Dickinson has been fantastic in many ways, but the amount he gives away the puck, ices the puck too….just because he’s had 4 good games in a row doesn’t mean he’s a lock for the NHL now. Still don’t think he’s ready for the NHL. But we will see.

Honestly I have not seen much in the way of giveaways from #3 in the entire playoffs. As far as icing, some are stretch passes that don't connect. Others are intentional to relieve pressure and I wonder if Dale coaches that for those siutations.

 

[purple pharrt]

Honestly I have not seen much in the way of giveaways from #3 in the entire playoffs. As far as icing, some are stretch passes that don't connect. Others are intentional to relieve pressure and I wonder if Dale coaches that for those siutations.

Given the Knights centres face-off prowess, I don't think that repeatedly icing is a sound strategy. That said however, if our centers are demonstrating a significant winning % at the dot, then an in-game adjustment can be made. The opponent, and their abilities in our end have to be respected, and it's preferable to be playing in the O-zone, rather than having the puck in our end for prolonged periods of time. An icing call is always preferable to a goal against being scored.

 

[frontsfan67]

Knights 3-2 in OT. GWG Haltunnen

 

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Knights 3-2 in OT. GWG Haltunnen

I don't know what the score is going to be, but it will not be as close as anyone thinks. London will win their third cup today, the players are too concentrated to let this one slip-by!

 

[LDN]

Knights 3-2 in OT. GWG Haltunnen

This would not be good for the heart lol

 

[crowncarrier]

6-4 London with one empty netter.

 

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Given the Knights centres face-off prowess, I don't think that repeatedly icing is a sound strategy. That said however, if our centers are demonstrating a significant winning % at the dot, then an in-game adjustment can be made. The opponent, and their abilities in our end have to be respected, and it's preferable to be playing in the O-zone, rather than having the puck in our end for prolonged periods of time. An icing call is always preferable to a goal against being scored.

Usually between two evenly match teams, the one that want it more ends up winning the game, and it is also reflected in the face-off circles as well!