Confirmed with Link: Logan Thompson 6 x 5.85

[DWGie26]

That tweet is from 2:28, Friedman's was from 2:30, that's what it takes to be first

At least he pulled over and didn’t do it while driving!

 

[DWGie26]

Caps feel like they have found their long term goalie. Wanted to get a deal done. So did Thompson. You give some and you get some. Thompson got term which was important to him. 6 years is fine because he’ll be 33 at end and can still sign another 3-4 year deal somewhere. Low mileage relatively young goalie by goalie standards. Caps get lower cap hit and free trade reign. So its moveable as well.

On Chuckie… he is a pro. Loves this room. He’ll have some emotions I’m sure but room is strong and he’ll be fine. I’d like to sign him to a 1-3 year deal from 2.5M. And I think he’ll be fine with that as well. I’m not sure he can find a better situation. Only way he gets more money is if someone will sign him to a 1a contract. A good deal for both sides would be 2.5Mx2.

 

[SherVaughn30]

I notice the talk about how goalie coach Scott Murray "ruins goalies" has completely stopped with Lindgren and now Thompson.

Interesting. Maybe Scott Murray isn't the problem!

Thompson was familiar with Scott Murray from the time no team drafted him and he came to the Caps rookie camp as a goalie invite, so he knew what to expect coming here. Caps didn't sign him because I think they were too backlogged with goalies in the system. I will add, in all interviews LT has had so far since being a Cap, he's never mentioned Scott Murray's name once when giving credit to goalie coaches. Instead he's credited Sean Burke, who is the Director of Goaltending for Vegas. Same goes for Lindgren, as I have never heard him mention even once of crediting Scott Murray. The record has shown Murray has not done well coaching vet Vezina/Cup Winning goalies specifically Holtby and Darcy Kuemper. Vanecek we knew had limitations and Samsonov has been a disappointment ever since he came over from the KHL, as he always had the physical traits to be a good goalie but low on the mental goalie IQ(the amount of times Vanecek/Sammy dropped their sticks was very puzzling). I think LT/Lindgren, along with some other NHL goalies, fall into the category of very coachable goalies, and can adjust their game to whomever is their goalie coach. With some goalies, they only click with certain goalie coaches. Ian Clark with the Canucks, is considered one of the best in the business right now, just as Mitch Korn used to be with coaching up Hasek(Sabres), then Rinne(Preds), followed by Holtby/Grubauer.

The majority of ppl don't really look at the importance of a goalie coach towards a goalie, just like an NFL's importance of a QB coach is to a QB. Some goalies can self correct themselves, while other goalies need the assistance of a goalie coach.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Caps feel like they have found their long term goalie. Wanted to get a deal done. So did Thompson. You give some and you get some. Thompson got term which was important to him. 6 years is fine because he’ll be 33 at end and can still sign another 3-4 year deal somewhere. Low mileage relatively young goalie by goalie standards. Caps get lower cap hit and free trade reign. So its moveable as well.

On Chuckie… he is a pro. Loves this room. He’ll have some emotions I’m sure but room is strong and he’ll be fine. I’d like to sign him to a 1-3 year deal from 2.5M. And I think he’ll be fine with that as well. I’m not sure he can find a better situation. Only way he gets more money is if someone will sign him to a 1a contract. A good deal for both sides would be 2.5Mx2.

I'm not so sure about that $2.5 million for a backup goalie, when you can possibly have Clay Stevenson backup for $775k. Right now Stevenson is debatable to whether he's ready to move into a backup role next season. Stevenson looked great last season in Hershey, but this season he has tailed off considerably, and Shepard looks even worse. Shepard never was able to translate playing great winning 2 Calder Cups with Hershey to the NHL. Stevenson hasn't been the same since coming back from a lengthy injury, but I wonder if he had great numbers in Hershey last season because of the system and talent playing in front of him?

 

[PlushMinus]

Thompson was familiar with Scott Murray from the time no team drafted him and he came to the Caps rookie camp as a goalie invite, so he knew what to expect coming here. Caps didn't sign him because I think they were too backlogged with goalies in the system. I will add, in all interviews LT has had so far since being a Cap, he's never mentioned Scott Murray's name once when giving credit to goalie coaches. Instead he's credited Sean Burke, who is the Director of Goaltending for Vegas. Same goes for Lindgren, as I have never heard him mention even once of crediting Scott Murray. The record has shown Murray has not done well coaching vet Vezina/Cup Winning goalies specifically Holtby and Darcy Kuemper. Vanecek we knew had limitations and Samsonov has been a disappointment ever since he came over from the KHL, as he always had the physical traits to be a good goalie but low on the mental goalie IQ(the amount of times Vanecek/Sammy dropped their sticks was very puzzling). I think LT/Lindgren, along with some other NHL goalies, fall into the category of very coachable goalies, and can adjust their game to whomever is their goalie coach. With some goalies, they only click with certain goalie coaches. Ian Clark with the Canucks, is considered one of the best in the business right now, just as Mitch Korn used to be with coaching up Hasek(Sabres), then Rinne(Preds), followed by Holtby/Grubauer.

The majority of ppl don't really look at the importance of a goalie coach towards a goalie, just like an NFL's importance of a QB coach is to a QB. Some goalies can self correct themselves, while other goalies need the assistance of a goalie coach.

Admittedly I know almost nothing about goaltending so it was a very high level view from me. I just felt like LT and Lindgren have played very well whilst Samsonov, Vanacek, and Kuemper played very poorly. Out of those 3 only Kuemper has had a resurgence but to my untrained eye that's because he has in the past shown he is a very capable starter and so a mental readjustment or change of scene can get him back to that form.

 

[Kazer]

Very happy with this deal. It is not without risk, of course. There is a lot of variance in goalies from year to year. The nice thing about this deal is that LT can regress to his career norms, and we're still in good shape.

LT 24-25 GAA / SV% / GSAA
2.09 / .925 / 18.0

LT Career averages
2.55 / .915 / 10.2 (averaging his 21-22 through current marks)

Even if he regresses from his 24-25 numbers, those career averages are still a good value on this contract. Those lower numbers would still put him around 9th or 10th in terms of goalies this season. Also, small sample size but he was also fantastic for Vegas in the playoffs - 4 GP with a .921 sv% and 2.35 GAA.

As others have outlined clearly, the Caps have basically nothing in the system with Stevenson's regression this year. Further, Thompson is young enough (turns 28 in a few weeks) that 6 years makes a lot of sense. Thompson will be about Kuemper's age now when this deal expires.

I'll end on this. I would re-sign Charlie 2x2.5 (or in that range). It's a bit of a luxury but as we've discussed ad nauseum in the other thread the Caps are a bit thin offensively despite their excellent production this year. To remain competitive, the team needs both a quality starter (check) and a high quality backup who can fill in if needed (check if Lindgren is re-signed).

 

[Langway]

I doubled check on PuckPedia, and the answer is he has nothing of the sort in his new contract.

 

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Really happy for LT with these deal, and it's a pretty good deal for you guys too. Hope he is everything and more you ask of him for the next 6 years.

Man you love that guy.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Thompson was familiar with Scott Murray from the time no team drafted him and he came to the Caps rookie camp as a goalie invite, so he knew what to expect coming here. Caps didn't sign him because I think they were too backlogged with goalies in the system. I will add, in all interviews LT has had so far since being a Cap, he's never mentioned Scott Murray's name once when giving credit to goalie coaches. Instead he's credited Sean Burke, who is the Director of Goaltending for Vegas. Same goes for Lindgren, as I have never heard him mention even once of crediting Scott Murray. The record has shown Murray has not done well coaching vet Vezina/Cup Winning goalies specifically Holtby and Darcy Kuemper. Vanecek we knew had limitations and Samsonov has been a disappointment ever since he came over from the KHL, as he always had the physical traits to be a good goalie but low on the mental goalie IQ(the amount of times Vanecek/Sammy dropped their sticks was very puzzling). I think LT/Lindgren, along with some other NHL goalies, fall into the category of very coachable goalies, and can adjust their game to whomever is their goalie coach. With some goalies, they only click with certain goalie coaches. Ian Clark with the Canucks, is considered one of the best in the business right now, just as Mitch Korn used to be with coaching up Hasek(Sabres), then Rinne(Preds), followed by Holtby/Grubauer.

The majority of ppl don't really look at the importance of a goalie coach towards a goalie, just like an NFL's importance of a QB coach is to a QB. Some goalies can self correct themselves, while other goalies need the assistance of a goalie coach.

I’m convinced you have some personal grudge against Scott Murray. It’s bizarre the lengths at which you will go to criticize him, or attempt to divert praise from him.

Someday I hope you will fess up. You’re hardly the only Caps fan who is/was a goalie (fanatic), yet I’ve never seen so much obsession over a long tenured position coach.

I also find your view that most of us disregard goalie coaching as important as insulting. Know your audience.

 

[hangman005]

Man you love that guy.

He's my man crash In seriousness I really grew impressed with him when he took over the net from Lehner, he worked his ass off to end the season, and was really the biggest reason we stuck in the race so long, that 3 game stretch where we went 0-19 in shootouts and LT was the only one showing up. There are a number of games we hung him out to dry and kept us in games. Haven't really seen anything like that from Hill. he was great during the run, but I can't recall him keeping us in games the way LT did.

 

[um]

He's my man crash In seriousness I really grew impressed with him when he took over the net from Lehner, he worked his ass off to end the season, and was really the biggest reason we stuck in the race so long, that 3 game stretch where we went 0-19 in shootouts and LT was the only one showing up. There are a number of games we hung him out to dry and kept us in games. Haven't really seen anything like that from Hill. he was great during the run, but I can't recall him keeping us in games the way LT did.

Glad we got ourselves a gamer. He's been great for us too.

I'm an Adin Hill fan too. He was extremely impressive on that SC run. Not many guys can do that.

 

[hangman005]

Glad we got ourselves a gamer. He's been great for us too.

I'm an Adin Hill fan too. He was extremely impressive on that SC run. Not many guys can do that.

I liked the run, I like the king of hill music we play after a big save, but I think Thompson is the better goalie and would take Thompson 10 out of 10. I'd like Hill to find lightning in a bottle again, but that's largely what I think it was.

 

[Jags]

Great deal. For context, LT is five years younger than Darcy was when they signed him.

Agreed, and with the way the cap figures to go up over the next few years, that 5.85 will decline in its cap percentage probably on pace with LT's decline in play. Solid deal.

Still think they can sign Chuckie as well.

Depends on what he wants. We're all Chuckie fans, but I'm of two minds on keeping him as a backup given the raise he figures to get in the offseason. I'm good with it if it's not crazy, but I like him enough that I hope he finds a team that'll let him cash in.

I don't think it's that big of a problem to find an affordable backup. Every team's on the lookout for another Logan Thompson steal, but there's always goalie's moving around that are markedly better than the season they just had -- guys that just had off years, suffered from dodgy D, had an ill-timed injury, once-promising prospects that maybe didn't get the right look where they were, and aging vets that still have enough in the tank if the situation's right.

We might be able to save a couple million next season, is my point.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Caps feel like they have found their long term goalie. Wanted to get a deal done. So did Thompson. You give some and you get some. Thompson got term which was important to him. 6 years is fine because he’ll be 33 at end and can still sign another 3-4 year deal somewhere. Low mileage relatively young goalie by goalie standards. Caps get lower cap hit and free trade reign. So its moveable as well.

On Chuckie… he is a pro. Loves this room. He’ll have some emotions I’m sure but room is strong and he’ll be fine. I’d like to sign him to a 1-3 year deal from 2.5M. And I think he’ll be fine with that as well. I’m not sure he can find a better situation. Only way he gets more money is if someone will sign him to a 1a contract. A good deal for both sides would be 2.5Mx2.

I’d do 3x3m. Easily. Been thinking about it a bit. Would be a great contract for him, and he knows he will play 35 (ish) games a season, adding LT isn’t injured.

Even 4x3m. If LT gets hurt, you need a guy that can carry the load. We know Chucky can.

I am not sold on Stevenson. If he’s gets his shit together, then trade Chuckie down the line.

 

[Calicaps]

:/ less good, but not terrible.

 

[kicksavedave]

Thompson was familiar with Scott Murray from the time no team drafted him and he came to the Caps rookie camp as a goalie invite, so he knew what to expect coming here. Caps didn't sign him because I think they were too backlogged with goalies in the system. I will add, in all interviews LT has had so far since being a Cap, he's never mentioned Scott Murray's name once when giving credit to goalie coaches. Instead he's credited Sean Burke, who is the Director of Goaltending for Vegas. Same goes for Lindgren, as I have never heard him mention even once of crediting Scott Murray. The record has shown Murray has not done well coaching vet Vezina/Cup Winning goalies specifically Holtby and Darcy Kuemper. Vanecek we knew had limitations and Samsonov has been a disappointment ever since he came over from the KHL, as he always had the physical traits to be a good goalie but low on the mental goalie IQ(the amount of times Vanecek/Sammy dropped their sticks was very puzzling). I think LT/Lindgren, along with some other NHL goalies, fall into the category of very coachable goalies, and can adjust their game to whomever is their goalie coach. With some goalies, they only click with certain goalie coaches. Ian Clark with the Canucks, is considered one of the best in the business right now, just as Mitch Korn used to be with coaching up Hasek(Sabres), then Rinne(Preds), followed by Holtby/Grubauer.

The majority of ppl don't really look at the importance of a goalie coach towards a goalie, just like an NFL's importance of a QB coach is to a QB. Some goalies can self correct themselves, while other goalies need the assistance of a goalie coach.

Not disagreeing with anything you're saying here, but its not the point that @PlushMinus made like at all. You can make a fair case that Murray failed to develop several of the younger goalies that have passed through here, but you can't argue that he hasn't ruined LT. And hasn't ruined Chucky either. We get it, Murray isn't Mitch Korn, he's not a goalie whisperer who gets the very best out of everyone, every time. Few people are.

 

[qc14]

I’d do 3x3m. Easily. Been thinking about it a bit. Would be a great contract for him, and he knows he will play 35 (ish) games a season, adding LT isn’t injured.

Even 4x3m. If LT gets hurt, you need a guy that can carry the load. We know Chucky can.

I am not sold on Stevenson. If he’s gets his shit together, then trade Chuckie down the line.

I think the bigger issue is whether Lindgren is looking for a chance to be a legit 1 or 1a as that door has been shut here by the LT extension.

1000% agree on Stevenson and Shepard. I think the fact that they went out and got LT in the first place this summer shows that the org doesn't view them as NHL caliber. If Lindgren leaves, Vladar or Allen would be my targets for the backup

 

[895]

Okay...

I'm considerably less enthused about this deal now that I know about the NTC.

It's fine as long as he performs but not having that hedge is bad.

I also think we should re-sign Lindgren to a 2x3m with a handshake agreement to trade him to a team to be their starter if such an opportunity arises for him.

 

[Pigskin]

Chuckie is 31. Maybe not huge money by NHL player standards, but another $4-8m total on top of what he has already earnt in his career - he'll never work again if he is smart. If he is happy, which he appears to be, maybe he signs and stays.