The raw data (game footage) is out in the open. And Cory Sznajder does the same kind of manual tracking (but he's subscription based and only randomly tracks the Jets in the regular season).
Confirmed with Link: Logan Stanley 2 years 1.25 million
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Buffdog
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I'm sure lots of people do it, and I'm sure the Jets use their own people and/or software.
I'm not positive if that's something that inStat could track, or if teams use something more proprietary
If I could watch the game tonight, I'd do it myself (and it would be kinda fun to have a bunch of us do it and compare results, just to see how subjective of a stat it is)
Stanleys biggest issues are, his 2 foot garbage passes under pressure and his decision making ability when he has the puck in his own end.
Just watch him, he will 3-4 times a game, throw 2-3 foot passes into pressure to his D partner when he's under pressure. You can see a lot of the time, they are not expecting it. He essentially just releasing pressure on himself, to someone else in an impossible situation. It's ridiculous.
Also his horrible decision making in his own zone. He literally has no idea what you do. He panics and will put the puck back into pressure or up the middle with a bad % pass. Especially behind the net. He constantly will throw a pass to someone, who themselves is under pressure. I don't understand what the hell he is thinking most of the time or what he sees to think "yep, this is the best choice"
Samberg has gotten so much better because he quit doing that. He constantly looks before he gets the puck and his decision making ability has really grown as a player. Stanley doesn't seem to understand gaps or how to properly tie up someone without the puck in front.
It will be a glorious day when Fluery comes back and Hopefully the big idiot can sit in the press box.
Just watch him, he will 3-4 times a game, throw 2-3 foot passes into pressure to his D partner when he's under pressure. You can see a lot of the time, they are not expecting it. He essentially just releasing pressure on himself, to someone else in an impossible situation. It's ridiculous.
Also his horrible decision making in his own zone. He literally has no idea what you do. He panics and will put the puck back into pressure or up the middle with a bad % pass. Especially behind the net. He constantly will throw a pass to someone, who themselves is under pressure. I don't understand what the hell he is thinking most of the time or what he sees to think "yep, this is the best choice"
Samberg has gotten so much better because he quit doing that. He constantly looks before he gets the puck and his decision making ability has really grown as a player. Stanley doesn't seem to understand gaps or how to properly tie up someone without the puck in front.
It will be a glorious day when Fluery comes back and Hopefully the big idiot can sit in the press box.
Buffdog
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And people wonder why I bring up bias with regards to Stanley lol
Right? Its like people are watching a game from an alternate uninverse.
Stanley makes one mistake and suddenly that's all he does.
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Agree. I'm watching that pairing right now and my butt is clenched. And it's not Stanley i'm concerned about.My composure when Stan's defending in his own zone isn't great, at least...
Heinola-Coughlan were pretty good together and seemed to be working well. We've seen Stanley-Heinola and it hasn't been very good.
TOI CF% FF% SF% GF%(+/-) xGF% SCF% HDCF% Stanola 65:35 40.00 46.74 40.68 66.67 (+1) 49.30 46.30 39.13 Heinola w/o Stan 123:22 54.05 52.50 50.51 85.71 (+5) 51.61 50.49 51.02 Stan w/o Heinola 360:03 46.08 46.51 45.03 57.89 (+3) 47.32 46.98 46.67
Why go back to Stanley-Heinola when it's been crap? Heinola's not very good on his off side and that puts additional defensive pressure on Stanley, which is the last thing he needs...the whole thing's a disaster.
At least with other Stanley-X or X-Heinola pairings you have someone who can theoretically hold their own in the D-zone.
Samberg also cost us games in the playoffs.
Maybe it's best if you just put me on ignore and I'll reciprocate.
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Stanley with yet another boneheaded play that leads to a Canucks goal. Luckily the game is pretty much over. I pray Stanley is benched for the more important games (the playoffs).
Ya, he's been awesome tonight huh? Lol I was a Stanley supported for the first few years but he's shown to be nothing, 7-8th guy at best and literally any other opinion is wrong, look at any stats, it's clear as day... I can't help it if you are blind.
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I don't think he is going anywhere though, maybe we will put a package together and throw him in. I think the jets are going to stick it out with Stan and in a year or two he may be a fan favorite.
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If you mean he's been fine in general, then ok but tonight.... everything he touched was like throwing gas on a fire.
The problem with Stanley is that even when he's had a solid game, he too often just falls apart and creates huge problems. Tonight was an example. He was playing fine and then he just fell apart. He muffed the play leading to the Canucks' goal and then started mishandling the puck and you could see him losing his composure. It happened in the playoffs last year, too. He became unplayable. That's my concern. If the Jets don't have a better 3LD and for the PK they could be in big trouble if/when Stanley loses his composure.
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Yeah, I thought his 1st and 2nd were OK but his 3rd was terrible
he is so bad it hurts to watch. he does some occasional things that are NHL level for short periods but his game as a whole is just pitiful on a regular basis. really concerning how he's viewed by this team
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Yeah, he had a tough third - but the Jets will play him. They need to figure out if they can get him playing consistent hockey.
Right now, he has trouble stringing good periods together - but it's fairly clear to see that the Jets are going to continue with him.
They want the big man on the blueline - I'm fine with that - he might break through at some point and that would be the plus the Jets are hoping for.
There'll be a lot of bitching around here while this takes place but you get used to it - I think everyone (including those that support him) know that it's a long shot but the process will take place.
I mean he’s currently a 3rd pair on the best team in the nhl
But that’s the problem. He’ll cruise along playing decent hockey for a game or 2 and then make a bonehead play or get blown past by a fast skater. You simply can’t rely on him and Jets continue to play him regularly. When healthy and in the playoffs the Jets should duct tape him to a seat in the press box.
He’s been in the organization for almost 9 years. Trying to get him to play consistent hockey is futile at this point. He is what he is.
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Everyone becomes biased as soon as they reach a conclusion? So conclusions are inherently bad and only indecisive people have credibility.
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He warned against drafting Stanley based on the data. Why would it have been based on anything else? You're calling him biased simply because he looked at the data at that time and reached a conclusion. Now, if Stan had pissed in his cornflakes he would have reason for bias.
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Even less so on a bottom team because he then has less support, fewer good options to pass to to relieve pressure, less rescue by goalie.
