Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

[CharleyHorse]

If Mailloux ends up making Matheson look good, you know you got a keeper!

I gather you mean making Matheson look good by improving his play, and not by comparison

 

[Scriptor]

I can see Reinbacher,or Mailloux,making the teapot of camp next season, but definitely not both. There's no way we insert two rookie RHDs to start next season!

We start the year with Matheson - Carrier, Guhle - Hutson and one of Xhekaj, or Struble, on a pairing with one of Reinbacher, or Mailloux.

By Christmas, the RHD not called at the start of the season should get the nod to step up to the NHL.

By the deadline, one of Matheson or Xhekaj get traded, depending on what positions we filled in the offseason and on what either player can garner in trade.

I'd actually really want to see pairing of Xhekaj-Mailloux as a 3rd pairing to start next season. I think the two can have good chemistry together.

With another 25-40 games in Laval, Reinbacher should be ready to step up to the NHL alongside Hutson and he couldplay a safer defensive game to start off, with less expectations and pressure to perform as an all-around D right from the get-go.

 

[Dagistitsyn]

I can see Reinbacher,or Mailloux,making the teapot of camp next season, but definitely not both. There's no way we insert two rookie RHDs to start next season!

We start the year with Matheson - Carrier, Guhle - Hutson and one of Xhekaj, or Struble, on a pairing with one of Reinbacher, or Mailloux.

By Christmas, the RHD not called at the start of the season should get the nod to step up to the NHL.

By the deadline, one of Matheson or Xhekaj get traded, depending on what positions we filled in the offseason and on what either player can garner in trade.

I'd actually really want to see pairing of Xhekaj-Mailloux as a 3rd pairing to start next season. I think the two can have good chemistry together.

With another 25-40 games in Laval, Reinbacher should be ready to step up to the NHL alongside Hutson and he couldplay a safer defensive game to start off, with less expectations and pressure to perform as an all-around D right from the get-go.

I don't know about Xhekaj-Mailloux together. Arber struggled defensively most of the year, and Logan is still not looking great in his own zone in the AHL apparently. Might get eaten alive.

 

[Laboeuf]

Very different players. Mailloux is more physical, much heavier shot. Not as great a skater - not as agile.

Barron has (had?) a serious confidence problem and doesn't seem to have high hockey IQ. Mailloux has the confidence, IQ still has to be proven, but he mostly lacks experience IMO.

I recall Justin Barron in the WJC, he was lights out good. Would have been a top 3 defenseman. Not sure he fell off.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Trade him before it's to late, we will regret it.

 

[Tyson]

Trade him before it's to late, we will regret it.

The other side of that opinion is if you trade him, you will regret it.

 

[Habs]

Dude gets no respect, he’s outplayed our 5th overall wonderboy the last two years, stays healthy, he’s tough, booming shot.. but you know.. he sucks right?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Dude gets no respect, he’s outplayed our 5th overall wonderboy the last two years, stays healthy, he’s tough, booming shot.. but you know.. he sucks right?

He has NOT outplayed Reinbacher. He has played more games though.

 

[montreal]

Dude gets no respect, he’s outplayed our 5th overall wonderboy the last two years, stays healthy, he’s tough, booming shot.. but you know.. he sucks right?

I never understand why some Hab fans do this, why pump up one and trash another, they are both Hab prospects and we should all want the best for all of them. I was not a fan of picking either at the draft, but I support both fully. Mailloux has played 135 games for Laval, Reinbacher 21, why would you compare when the other is such a small sample size.

Mailloux clearly has impressive offensive upside, have been saying so since I started watching him but he is flat out dumb with his decision making and at times he is lazy and just gives up on plays which is total bullshit and I would have benched him for a week when he does that shit. But not everyone has seen every game of his.

Reinbacher looks better defensively and his ppg so far isn't too far behind as Mailloux's career AHL ppg is .59, Reinbacher's is .48

 

[JadedRandom]

Dude gets no respect, he’s outplayed our 5th overall wonderboy the last two years, stays healthy, he’s tough, booming shot.. but you know.. he sucks right?

I've watched every single Laval Rocket game the last couple of seasons, and I disagree with you on this.

I personally think David Reinbacher has been Laval's best defenseman basically every game he's played in the AHL, and that he's much more pro-ready than Mailloux

But that doesn't mean I think Logan Mailloux is a bad prospect too, because he isn't.

Just, I've seen fairly little progress defensively from Mailloux this season and that plateau-ing is the opposite of what you want to see in a young prospect.

Development isn't linear, and maybe next season Mailloux takes giant strides forward. But for now I think Mailloux still has work to put in to get his defensive game in order before he sees a lot of NHL icetime.

We don't want Mailloux to "Barron it", and basically flatline his progression because of early-NHL time and trying to cling to his NHL paycheck some way, somehow.

I'd much rather we graduate Reinbacher next season, whilst giving Mailloux even more minutes next year in the AHL, PKing and eating the most minutes he can defensively so that he'd be ready to integrate the NHL team for 2026-2027.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Dude gets no respect, he’s outplayed our 5th overall wonderboy the last two years, stays healthy, he’s tough, booming shot.. but you know.. he sucks right?

For one, Mailloux is showing in these playoffs that he has it in him to play a more complete game. He was always a smooth skater, always had offense in his game, and a booming shot. It's the other aspect of his game he needed to work on. And it's great to see him playing the way he is right now.

Secondly, no need to take a shot at Reinbacher by calling him the wonderboy. You don't have to downplay one player to prop up another.

It reminds of Grant McCagg leading up to the 2022 draft, in order to prop up Slaf, who was the one he wanted Habs to take, he would rag on Shane Wright, who was a lot of people's choice.

 

[Habs]

I never understand why some Hab fans do this, why pump up one and trash another, they are both Hab prospects and we should all want the best for all of them. I was not a fan of picking either at the draft, but I support both fully. Mailloux has played 135 games for Laval, Reinbacher 21, why would you compare when the other is such a small sample size.

Mailloux clearly has impressive offensive upside, have been saying so since I started watching him but he is flat out dumb with his decision making and at times he is lazy and just gives up on plays which is total bullshit and I would have benched him for a week when he does that shit. But not everyone has seen every game of his.

Reinbacher looks better defensively and his ppg so far isn't too far behind as Mailloux's career AHL ppg is .59, Reinbacher's is .48

I’m saying this because Logan is universally trashed on this forum and he’s been great

 

[montreal]

I’m saying this because Logan is universally trashed on this forum and he’s been great

He's been pretty good offensively but overall I would say far from great, he gets shit because he does dumb things out there.

 

[Tyson]

The Habs have two promising big RD prospects and I hope they both reach their potential.
Mailloux has taking huge strides during this playoff run and Reinbacher is steady every shift he plays.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Mailloux will play in the NHL and his value is inherently high just because he's a RHD with good size and mobility. The more we keep him the more his value will increase.

Do not trade yet, if at all.

Perhaps. But the flip side is also possible: that the more he plays, the more his weaknesses will be exposed and the lower his market value will become.

For those who question my concerns, I would suggest that if you have the ability, re-watch the few games that Mailloux played with the Canadiens early this season. There was one game, I believe against the Islanders, when Mailloux was paired with Hutson, where the team was helplessly trapped in their own zone under a heavy forecheck for almost 90 seconds. Mailloux was sent back to Laval shortly after. Mailloux has trouble dealing with the forecheck at the AHL level. I hold little hope that somehow, at the age of 23, he will suddenly be able to be effective playing against the speed and strength of NHL players.

If the deal/return is good, I would trade Mailloux now and let some other team gamble on his hoped for needed development. After watching Mailloux closely for the past three years, I think that is a vain hope.

Just my thoughts as no one has the perfect crystal ball. If I did, I would have avoided my first two marriages.

 

[montreal]

The Habs have two promising big RD prospects and I hope they both reach their potential.
Mailloux has taking huge strides during this playoff run and Reinbacher is steady every shift he plays.

they do but to me you have to look at the entire season, as it's only been 6 playoff games so that's a small sample size. I like that this year the goals per game were up and he showed slight improvement in his defense. He had a drop in overall production but I hated how they handled him with the he's on PP1, he's off PP1, he's back on PP1, he's off PP1 again, repeat several times. How they thought putting Hoefenmayer over Mailloux on PP1 made zero sense to me. I know it was said they were trying to get him to work on his defense but how they handled just didn't make sense to me, in the end it only matters if it works though so we'll see when he gets more NHL games next year.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Ideal for next season:

Hutson - ☆☆☆☆☆
Ghule - Carrier
Xhekaj - Mailloux

In the future:

Hutson - Reinbacher
Ghule - ☆☆☆☆☆
Xhekaj - Mailloux

 

[Tyson]

they do but to me you have to look at the entire season, as it's only been 6 playoff games so that's a small sample size. I like that this year the goals per game were up and he showed slight improvement in his defense. He had a drop in overall production but I hated how they handled him with the he's on PP1, he's off PP1, he's back on PP1, he's off PP1 again, repeat several times. How they thought putting Hoefenmayer over Mailloux on PP1 made zero sense to me. I know it was said they were trying to get him to work on his defense but how they handled just didn't make sense to me, in the end it only matters if it works though so we'll see when he gets more NHL games next year.

Development of young players has alot twists and turns for sure.

 

[Steve Shutt]

Nice problem to have. Two solid RD prospects both almost ready for the NHL. A lot of teams would be envious.
Perhaps the solution is to trade one of our LD's to make room for both.

 

[Tyson]

Perhaps. But the flip side is also possible: that the more he plays, the more his weaknesses will be exposed and the lower his market value will become.

For those who question my concerns, I would suggest that if you have the ability, re-watch the few games that Mailloux played with the Canadiens early this season. There was one game, I believe against the Islanders, when Mailloux was paired with Hutson, where the team was helplessly trapped in their own zone under a heavy forecheck for almost 90 seconds. Mailloux was sent back to Laval shortly after. Mailloux has trouble dealing with the forecheck at the AHL level. I hold little hope that somehow, at the age of 23, he will suddenly be able to be effective playing against the speed and strength of NHL players.

If the deal/return is good, I would trade Mailloux now and let some other team gamble on his hoped for needed development. After watching Mailloux closely for the past three years, I think that is a vain hope.

Just my thoughts as no one has the perfect crystal ball. If I did, I would have avoided my first two marriages.

It's unfair to make a full assessment on one shift of a player who has just been called up. As someone who watches just about every Laval game I can say that he has vastly improved since his pro debut in Laval last season.
He has 96 total OHL games which basically says he has one full season of junior hockey. I would be real careful to write off this player or trade him too quickly.
Also, based on how MSL spoke about Mailloux on a few occasions you get the sense that MSL likes this player.

 

[Schooner Goon]

I personally think David Reinbacher has been Laval's best defenseman basically every game he's played in the AHL, and that he's much more pro-ready than Mailloux

That first part is just not true. Mailloux was Laval's best dman in the 1st round vs Cleveland and possibly Laval's best player.