Recalled/Assigned: Logan Mailloux assigned back to Laval

[LaP]

When the eye test is backed by analytics

Dunno pretty much the whole Oilers defense is in the + offense and + defense category. Looks like the quality of the offense impact those metrics a lot.

 

[Bourdon101]

Not surprising, but the amount of shit he takes is crazy on here. He was the only dman doing much of anything in the last game.

The only defensemen he outplayed was Struble, who was playing on his off-side.

He's rightfully roasted. He lacks awareness big time and is a defensive liability right now. It's fair to wonder what kind of role he'll carve for himself in the show. He isn't skilled enough to be a powerplay-leading offensive defensemen, and isn't smart enough to be a reliable defender. He needs time.

 

[KFlint]

Wonder if he’ll ever be a decent defender, not going lie. Still time though but he will never be a top 4, that’s pretty clear now. If it comes to put him on waivers someday, I’m trying him as a forward… Perhaps he will get traded in a package too.

Not super exciting news…

 

[Treb]

From what I've seen in Laval in recent games Hayes and Jacobs have been our best Defenders.
If we need to call someone up in the future I'd give one of these guys the nod if they continue to play well.

They cannot be called up as they don't have NHL contracts. Same thing with Wotherspoon.

Your choices are the prospects or Lindstrom.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Could this be because he indirectly insulted the coach?

No, it means Guhle & Barron are ready to play.

How did he insult MSL? Lol

 

[Tabarouette]

Could this be because he indirectly insulted the coach?

ok Max Truman

 

[Rapala]

They cannot be called up as they don't have NHL contracts. Same thing with Wotherspoon.

Your choices are the prospects or Lindstrom.

Oh yeah I forgot about Gustav.

 

[Rapala]

Dunno pretty much the whole Oilers defense is in the + offense and + defense category. Looks like the quality of the offense impact those metrics a lot.

It does it's our 5v5 that is so out of wack. I really don't like much about it.
If our top line isn't on the ice with our top Dmen nothing happens.

 

[LaP]

It does it's our 5v5 that is so out of wack. I really don't like much about it.
If our top line isn't on the ice with our top Dmen nothing happens.

Well it was kind of expected honestly.

We don't have a 2nd line. Laine is coming back from mental health problem and is curently injured. Dach is coming back from 1 year without playing and is replacing a vet with much more experience. Newhook has never really been a top 6 and he's getting close to "as seen on TV". The bottom 6 is made of vets on the decline and rookies.

Most of the defense is made of rookies and guys with around 100 games of experience and Savard is not getting younger. Our only prime vet in our defense is weak defensively. We were hoping for progress in Xhekaj's and Barron's play but it did not happen so far.

The main difference with last year if we want to be fully honest is Monahan is not there, the goalies suck while last year they surprised and Savard took a step back. We were expecting couple of kids would progress to cover for that but it did not happen.

That's the kind of "set back" all rebuilds have to deal with. Development is not linear and it's hard to evaluate when it will happen. It's not rare at all for rebuilding teams to suck until they "magically" do not suck anymore. I always said for me the target was the summer of 2025 and i still believe it's where things will start to turn around.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Marty hates him!!!

 

[Beaker]

We saw some of his offensive flair & his tools (great wrist shot). He needs to work on his footwork, pivots, and processing the game a little faster.

 

[montreal]

I'm starting to agree with Snake on this guy. I don't think Mailloux is that smart.

i've been saying it for a while, he just doesn't seem that bright, his biggest issue seems to be his decision making imo.

 

[habbubba]

Thank goodness. He’s like a year away from being a year away. Needs serious coaching.

Keep him away from Robidas!!!

Xhekaj should had been sent down too.

Call up Lindstrom, a very decent NHL level 3rd pairing d-man.

Kovacevic would be looking pretty good right now.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Obviously not ready defensively.

Spend the rest of the year getting stronger and use that frame to bully people in the future.

 

[Riggins]

I think he's very likely trade bait along with picks when we try to upgrade in the summer for real veteran contributors.

It's hard to have Hutson and a guy like Mailloux on the same future D core

 

[overlords]

I think he's very likely trade bait along with picks when we try to upgrade in the summer for real veteran contributors.

It's hard to have Hutson and a guy like Mailloux on the same future D core

This is what I've been thinking. If reinbacher hadn't got hurt and was continuing from where he left off last season in Laval, I think Mailloux is moved as part of a deal for a long term top 4 RD

 

[Tyson]

Logan showed good things, his time will come

I think he's very likely trade bait along with picks when we try to upgrade in the summer for real veteran contributors.

It's hard to have Hutson and a guy like Mailloux on the same future D core

Why can't the Habs have both LD Hutson and RD Mailloux on the future top 6 D?

 

[ChesterNimitz]

i've been saying it for a while, he just doesn't seem that bright, his biggest issue seems to be his decision making imo.

I would tend to disagree with this assessment.

If you were watching Mailloux's play closely, his re-assignment to Laval was all but predictable.

I have watched this kid closely at all levels since his being drafted in 2021. Mailloux presents as a player who has a mixed bag of skills.

On the positive ledger, Mailloux has an NHL level shot, an excellent first pass and possesses high offensive vision. Negatively, when he first played in London, Mailloux was disastrously ineffective in the defensive zone. Some of you may remember that I thought he looked like he was playing ball hockey. He didn't close the gap on opposing forwards and, despite his size, he couldn't control opponents on the boards or in front of his net. I repeatedly warned that the accepted image of Mailloux being a big, physical defenseman was a total misrepresentation of what Mailloux's game and attributes were. I even suggested that a move to forward might be a viable option. I also found that he lacked stamina and, most worrisome, he lacked quickness and separation speed. I suggested that these deficiencies were perhaps the result of his extended absences from the game due to COVID, suspension and injury. I was hoping that, with additional playing time, Mailloux's skills would close the gap caused by his lost development time.

At Laval last year, and despite his statistical successes, I did not see the growth in Mailloux's skating that I had hoped for. Playing against superior opposition in the AHL, Mailloux was not able to transport the puck from the defensive zone, through the neutral zone and into the offensive zone on a consistent bases. That limitation was evident in his short stay in Montreal these past few weeks. While he can skate well without the puck ( as seen in his partial breakaway against Seattle) once Mailloux has the puck on his stick, it looks like he is pulling a canoe. When Mailloux is on the ice, the Canadiens are often pinned for long periods in their own zone.

Will Mailloux ever get that extra step is hard to say. But to write this kid off now would be a mistake born from impatience. The tools are there. There is no one on the Canadiens who has Mailloux's first pass. Not even Hutson. I have often said that the only certainty in hockey is the uncertainty of the rate/pace of a young player's development. Let him go back to Laval and play big minutes. Get stronger and faster. Let's assess Mailloux next training camp. If he again lacks the separation speed that caused him to be forechecked into irrelevance, then we have to consider that the window for this controversial draft choice maybe closing.

The reason for the demotion may be that both Guhle and Barron are ready to return. But I suspect that if an emergency rises and a call up is necessary, it will Engstrom that receives the call and not Mailloux.

 

[MXD]

Tools are very obviously there, but... yeah, not ready. AND he'll have to keep it super simple in the D-zone for much of his career.

 

[The Last Red]

I thought he showed some promising things. He’ll be a good offensive d-man with some snarl. Defensively . . . don’t expect much. I see a second pairing LD but he’ll need a partner like Guhle.

 

[montreal]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1851608429191733338

 

[Monsieur Miz]

Think he's better than Barron. His ceiling is, at least. Barron is Harris 2.0. Beige as f***, he skates better than Mailloux and that's about it.

 

[morhilane]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1851608429191733338

Not sure why you posted this here. Mailloux is being sent back because he was just an injury recall and the Habs needs to free a slot on the roster to reactivate Ghule.