Post-Game Talk: Literally shooting yourself in the foot

[MessierThanThou]

You've proven that you exercise absolutely no logic when it comes to game evaluation. Look no further than game 7 .

However, goals 1 and 2 could have been played better by Stu...but the bigger concern on both is how is a player left alone alone in the crease....and how does a 1 on 2 turn into a breakaway?

Lastly, the picture Tyler posted...1 player doing the starfish. Another facing away from the play, and the player furthest from the puck is the only one clued in.

The Oilers were horrific tonite on D, and the 9mil assistant captain was pure garbage.

That loss was not 100% on the goalie which I know you can't even remotely wrap your head around

That game was on the D...and Stu

So now you've changed your take from "the D are primarily responsible" to the D and Skinner are primarily responsible. Got it.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I mean, he forced Smith to shoot the puck wide...

<facepalm>

 

[foshizzle]

I mean, he forced Smith to shoot the puck wide...

No he didn’t. He commuted to stopping the shot which he didn’t.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

We should be up 3-0 right now with Vegas reeling. Instead they’re laughing at how dumb we are and our confidence is surely shook at least a little bit now.

We need Pickard back but these guys need to get their head on straight. We needed 5 or more goals to win that, many of us called exactly that. Drai is unfortunately off, so many times he was a couple inches off on a pass or a shot that was basically a guaranteed goal.

They need to dig the f*** in

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

No he didn’t. He commuted to stopping the shot which he didn’t.

Smith had no angle for the puck to go into the net, hence why it was going wide

 

[Zerotonine]

From Spector’s article this morning:

“The game marked the return of Stuart Skinner in goal, and he was every bit good enough in a game where his team rolled out its worst defensive effort since Game 2 versus L.A.”

It’s inexplicable how the media refuse to hold him accountable. It’s just so infuriating as a fan to watch one guy sewer a team like this and then have to read this propaganda the next day. What is it with this guy?

At this point it's more the obvious they have an agenda to deflect away from goaltending in every way possible which in turn deflect away from the golden boy Schwartz.

Thats embarrassing to try to tell the fan base Skinner was anywere near average on the night which would of gave us a 3-0 lead

Thars twice mcdavid has tied the game late in these playoffs only for akinner to fumble the bag. The insame thing is he only played 3 games

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I'm not saying that Stu had a good game overall, he definitely didn't and I'm hoping Pickard can come back in. But anyone who thinks turning this shooting opportunity into a shot that literally had 0% of going in if not for an own goal is a bad play is thinking emotionally instead of logically. I'm more concerned about how we turned a 2 on 4 into this kind of defensive fire drill.

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No question the team stopped playing with 2-3 seconds left, however look at Stu's positioning here and then freeze frame where he wound up, the entire time on his knees. He gambled on an overly strong challenge and lost big time. He simply had to maintain the angle at the top of the crease, while Smith gained control of the rolling puck. Thats it. Thats all he had to do.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

From Spector’s article this morning:

“The game marked the return of Stuart Skinner in goal, and he was every bit good enough in a game where his team rolled out its worst defensive effort since Game 2 versus L.A.”

It’s inexplicable how the media refuse to hold him accountable. It’s just so infuriating as a fan to watch one guy sewer a team like this and then have to read this propaganda the next day. What is it with this guy?

In all seriousness though wtf is this

Guy was horrific, looked panicked every time the puck got near him and then made one of the worst plays I’ve ever seen on the GWG

What really strikes me is that he also never holds himself accountable, it’s always “I thought I played well” - what a joker

 

[foshizzle]

Smith had no angle for the puck to go into the net, hence why it was going wide

No- he had an angle. You’ve seen Draisaitl shoot it and score on one-timers from worse angles. Either Skinner can’t read the game and doesn’t know pucks going through the crease can deflect and go in or he failed in stopping the puck. Which one is it?

 

[Gopper]

Why is Drai so pissy? Matheson, Spector, Rishaug and pressers like that make it so. The same absolve Skinner anytime out. Its hilarious except its what we have to listen to for media here.

Then the telecast. Skinner has 26W's this season!!!!

Skinner has 19 playoff wins!!!!!

This is how the pregame started. Saluting Skinner wins with no thought beyond that hes' a .500 goalie this season and playoffs and that he's also .500 career in the playoffs. While playing for a wagon team.

You can't shut off the stupidity. Its all over the media.

Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl have at least one cup ring, if Edmonton's starting goalie isn't Stuart Skinner these past three years. I think this year is the worst iteration of Stu I've seen.

All Edmonton needs is average goaltending. Not even good, just average. Pickard was giving them that. Pickard lets in some really bad goals, but my god, at least he makes some big saves. I'm so tired of the media making excuses for the guy. I'm sorry but as a goalie, you need to bail your team out sometimes. I'll forgive the brutal Pickard goals because he was battling and making the timely saves. Skinner could even cover his post last night with a second left, and we got people blaming Draisaitl. Like come on.

I'm not even going to bother watching if Skinner is starting again. I already know the ending.

 

[OilerTyler]

Smith had no angle for the puck to go into the net, hence why it was going wide

The people ignoring this are thinking emotionally, not logically. Skinner isn’t a good goalie, we all know it. That doesn’t mean we have to ignore facts to try to make him look worse than he is.

The way Skinner played that goal (whether fundamentally correct or not) led to Smith taking a shot that had a 0% chance of going in if not for an own goal. It was just bad luck. It happens. Expecting Skinner to play that goal different just in case Draisaitl is going to put it in our own net isn’t realistic.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

No- he had an angle. You’ve seen Draisaitl shoot it and score on one-timers from worse angles. Either Skinner can’t read the game and doesn’t know pucks going through the crease can deflect and go in or he failed in stopping the puck. Which one is it?

Smith ain't Draisaitl...you can't compare the two FFS

either way, Skinner gave him no angle to score that's a fact...it was going wide, also fact.. but Drai finally did something on the night and scored into his own net
I get blaming Skinner for everything, but that was his "least-worst" goal against last night

 

[Sasha Orlov]

The people ignoring this are thinking emotionally, not logically. Skinner isn’t a good goalie, we all know it. That doesn’t mean we have to ignore facts to try to make him look worse than he is.

The way Skinner played that goal (whether fundamentally correct or not) led to Smith taking a shot that had a 0% chance of going in if not for an own goal. It was just bad luck. It happens. Expecting Skinner to play that goal different just in case Draisaitl is going to put it in our own net isn’t realistic.

The fact that Skinner chased him out to the circle and the puck STILL got around him is just crazy

Absolutely indefensible

 

[foshizzle]

The people ignoring this are thinking emotionally, not logically. Skinner isn’t a good goalie, we all know it. That doesn’t mean we have to ignore facts to try to make him look worse than he is.

The way Skinner played that goal (whether fundamentally correct or not) led to Smith taking a shot that had a 0% chance of going in if not for an own goal. It was just bad luck. It happens. Expecting Skinner to play that goal different just in case Draisaitl is going to put it in our own net isn’t realistic.

Hahaha- Dubnyk disagrees with your assessment. If you’re going to play that shot like that- you have to make sure the puck is stopped because the net is wide open. Has Draisaitl scored from the angle? On a freaking one-timer?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

The fact that Skinner chased him out to the circle and the puck STILL got around him is just crazy

Absolutely indefensible

Smith made a good play go around and completely miss the net lol

 

[foshizzle]

Smith ain't Draisaitl...you can't compare the two FFS

either way, Skinner gave him no angle to score that's a fact...it was going wide, also fact.. but Drai finally did something on the night and scored into his own net
I get blaming Skinner for everything, but that was his "least-worst" goal against last night

You said goals can’t be scored from that angle? Can you just clarify if they can or not?

 

[McFlyingV]

Smith had no angle for the puck to go into the net, hence why it was going wide

He definitely had an angle because he put it between Skinner and the post and the puck was going basically parallel to the posts. If Skinner is going to go swimming there he needs to prevent the puck from getting between him and the post or he needs to force the centring pass to be from below the goal line. He unfortunately did neither and Draisaitl split second has to guess if that puck is going in or if there is a guy behind him waiting to tap it in.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

In all seriousness though wtf is this

Guy was horrific, looked panicked every time the puck got near him and then made one of the worst plays I’ve ever seen on the GWG

What really strikes me is that he also never holds himself accountable, it’s always “I thought I played well” - what a joker

That’s skinners hippy dippy mental game. It’s all about being calm, doing his routine, staying positive no matter what. That’s why away crowds shake him, he doesn’t have that fire and if he can’t stay zen he gets rattled.

Pickard is a competitor. He channels the pressure and fire and uses it as motivation. Mike Smith was the same way to the extreme.

They’re both valid but I prefer the guy that embraces the moment and rises to the occasion than the guy that can get overwhelmed.

Whatever happened to that coach they had last year that worked with Kobe? Probably saw we had the same goalies and passed this season lol

 

[Drivesaitl]

The people ignoring this are thinking emotionally, not logically. Skinner isn’t a good goalie, we all know it. That doesn’t mean we have to ignore facts to try to make him look worse than he is.

The way Skinner played that goal (whether fundamentally correct or not) led to Smith taking a shot that had a 0% chance of going in if not for an own goal. It was just bad luck. It happens. Expecting Skinner to play that goal different just in case Draisaitl is going to put it in our own net isn’t realistic.

This is hilarious to me for some reason.

You've said this multiple X now. When in fact the puck did go in.

Of course theres always a chance, even a good one, that a puck could accidentally get deflected in off a stick, and opponent, (Karlsson), Drai, or even Skinner. the puck could bounce off any of these players. Any part of them.

You speak it as if it was a play wherein Skinner stopped all possibilities of the puck going in, That it had 0%, that then went in.

Your posts on this are the most illogical I've read this morning.

I can guess what you're attempting to say. But how you're wording it is nonsense.

Fact of the matter is that Skinner did not shutdown this play and a goal was scored. Could've been own goal or in off Karlsson.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

You said goals can’t be scored from that angle? Can you just clarify if they can or not?

no they can't...not even Draisaitl...how many goals has he scored from that side of the goaltender at that angle?

 

[fresh meat]

The fact that Skinner chased him out to the circle and the puck STILL got around him is just crazy

Absolutely indefensible

Oh you’re just being emotional. You shouldn’t be upset that he’s doing his best to ruin McDrai’s chance at a cup for the THIRD straight year

Edit: someone on Reddit is now blaming the clock and the Defence instead of blaming Skinner

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Smith made a good play go around and completely miss the net lol

If you think watching the pucks trajectory on an overhead replay vs in game in real time is the same I really don’t know what to tell you

 

[MikeS24]

Dubnyk summed up Skinners game exactly how I saw it as well. First goal was terrible, no reason for that to have been a rebound or him to be that deep and falling backwards. Second goal was also crap, my 13 year old wouldn’t have went down that quickly and opened up like the Grand Canyon at the first move. Third goal was stoppable and a good goalie makes that save but that’s not 100 percent on him. Fourth goal is the only one that he takes the least amount of blame for, for the exact reasons Dubnyk explained, just boneheaded plays by all skaters on the ice.

That first goal was hilarious

What was this dirt bag even doing? Bad angle slapper and he falls back like he's having a seizure. Can't even stay up

Second goal. Opens his legs like a prostitute and says here ya go

Please for the love of God be ok pickard or were done

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

He definitely had an angle because he put it between Skinner and the post and the puck was going basically parallel to the posts. If Skinner is going to go swimming there he needs to prevent the puck from getting between him and the post or he needs to force the centring pass to be from below the goal line. He unfortunately did neither and Draisaitl split second has to guess if that puck is going in or if there is a guy behind him waiting to tap it in.

no he didn't have an angle, Skinner forced a shot to go wide....if Draisaitl wasn't standing here, that puck does not go in...that's a fact

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

If you think watching the pucks trajectory on an overhead replay vs in game in real time is the same I really don’t know what to tell you

does that puck go in if Drai doesn't tip it?