Post-Game Talk: Literally shooting yourself in the foot

[CycloneSweep]

I'll ask you what I asked the other guy, what level did you play?

Dubnyk pretty much agrees with him though so….

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Still waiting for you to tell everyone what level you played.

Excuse me, I am not watching the forum like a f***ing hawk but if you must know - AAA in Manitoba a long time ago. Also coached quite a few goalies over the years.

In any case that means jack shit.

Read post 361 where I summarize why each goal was save-able including the last goal which had Stu not lost track of time (his words not mine) and kept his head on f***ing straight, he would have stayed in his net and tracked versus the poor read that he made. Draisaitls stick was in the gaping yawning cage where the goalie *should have been*....

 

[McFlyingV]

When things get hairy. Sprawl on your belly!

Its funny you say that because Nurse's sprawl on the 2 on 1 right before Skinner let out the horrific rebound on the first Vegas goal was actually perfectly executed by Nurse. I agree he does it too much in shit situations, but he did that one flawlessly taking away both the shot and the pass.

 

[WaitingForUser]

Hes playing hurt every playoffs.

I dont get it.

It should be obvious shouldn’t it? Him and Connor take more abuse than any other players in the league every single year. Being the best puts a target on your back every night. It’s two fold because the refs and league love to artificially even the playing field by allowing more liberties to be taken on star players. We even consciously attempted to give Leon and Connor a much needed rest down the stretch and still Leon isn’t 100%. If Connor and Leon never win a cup it will be because of one of two things or a combination of both. Bad unreliable goaltending and league bias. These two should have at least one cup already but these two factors have made that impossible.

Case in point who scored the first goal for Vegas again? Right the guy that should have been serving the 1-2 game suspension for cross checking a guy in the teeth.

Why are we not discussing OT right now? Right bad unreliable goal tending. And why is our somewhat reliable option not playing? Right he was injured on a play that was clear GI.

This is my rant for the night not directed at you. This league is garbage and SS needs to be shot into the sun. 2 huge games that he has pissed away in the last seconds.

 

[frag2]

Another player who was total dogshit tonight was Nurse. Like wake the f*** up man. Quit trying to do everyone else’s f***ing job and just focus on your f***ing job.

Like Stu he too does not know what his job is

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Just disappointed in how this team never seems to learn from previous experience. Same mistakes/ flaws over and over. Not upgrading the goaltending is a fireable offense imo

 

[Drivesaitl]

I'll ask you what I asked the other guy, what level did you play?

This is a bad response. Sorry, you're off today.

Guys like Debrusk and Skinner play or have played in the NHL. It doesn't mean they know a lot or are experts.

Skinner even rationalized what the did there. Nobody else would.

Take the L. What Skinner is doing there nobody knows. But he figured he should be there doing that swimming out of crease. he must be right....because he's played a high level of hockey lol

 

[enthropi]

This is vintage full panic mode to 11 we hand’t seen in a while. Pretty sure Drai saw there was another Knight player across coming back to the font of the net in the corner of his eye, he can’t know there are fractions of a second left… it’s unrealistic to expect him to “do nothing”.

Anyway, this play shows the difference between Picard and Skinner, Picard saves their bacon more than once a game, with Skinner, the Panic threshold is tiny and ramps up into everyone’s worst instincts, including Stu, who just compounds the mistakes more often than bail the team out, just no confidence out there.

Quite the Oilers-style loss though… *facepalm* Sh*t happens, especially with that goalie…

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

If I'm the organization, here's how I respond to this.

1. Send Dustin Schwartz home, fire him in the offseason, but just send him away from the team.

2. Make Skinner part of the black aces or pretend he's hurt.

3. Name Calvin Pickard, or if he's out, Olivier Rodrigue starter for next game.

4. Hire a goalie consultant for the remainder of the playoffs.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

So to sum up the woe is us Knights, who have apparently been done in by the league - The guy who should have been suspended for multiple games for a vicious crosscheck scores a goal, the dman who we were told was basically on life support played 20 minutes, the guy who purposely injured our goalie was allowed to play, and the only guy to miss any action was our goalie. So as usual we end up as the only team that got screwed over.

The league is trash utter thrash

 

[Scheifele55]

Why the hell is Stuart Skinner in net?

 

[The Panther]

So I guess Knob didn’t learn from game 1 of the LA series and having 97/29 out there with 6 seconds left trying to win it

This is a really good point. The one obvious point -- for, like, 10 years now -- about playing McDrai together is that they often screw-up defensively. I don't entirely blame them -- it's hard, after many years, to suddenly shift defensive strategy from center to winger, and they often get mixed up.

But given all this, Knoblach should never be putting them out TOGETHER in a tied game, in the final minute, with a nervous goaltender in the cage.

Also Nurse going down instead of playing defence

(Sigh...) I've noticed this, too. He's been going down on the ice more lately. It never works.

At least he's not doing the starfish anymore...

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Why the hell is Stuart Skinner in net?

Because Pickard got hurt

 

[Drivesaitl]

Skinner is not fit to be an nhl goalie. All he has to do was stay in position. Instead he took himself totsll out of the net. Just junior lvl goaltending

Its just amazing that multiple posters in the thread are seeing it a different way. like still. lol

Calling it Junior level might be giving too much credit.

The funny thing in this is even Dustin Schwartz didn't play goal like this on the Golden Bears. You wouldn't see him making this play. he was stay at home. So Skinner figured to do this somewhere in his ass.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Because Pickard got hurt

On what should have been a penalty but wasn’t because nhl

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Still waiting for you to tell everyone what level you played.

Oh, I am going to bed now, is that ok?

Just want to check so you don't wear your keyboard out wondering where I went and waiting....

 

[McFlyingV]

Why the hell is Stuart Skinner in net?

Because Vegas injured our real starting goalie (who is a back up, but better than our back up starting goalie). Hope that wasn't confusing.

 

[bleedthenorth]

please say Pickard will be ready for next game

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

This is a really good point. The one obvious point -- for, like, 10 years now -- about playing McDrai together is that they often screw-up defensively. I don't entirely blame them -- it's hard, after many years, to suddenly shift defensive strategy from center to winger, and they often get mixed up.

But given all this, Knoblach should never be putting them out TOGETHER in a tied game, in the final minute, with a nervous goaltender in the cage.

(Sigh...) I've noticed this, too. He's been going down on the ice more lately. It never works.

At least he's not doing the starfish anymore...

Not a fan of knobs this post season. Bench management has been bad as have lineup construction.

 

[Yuke]

Tell me you know nothing about goaltending without saying you know nothing about goaltending.

Tell me you know nothing about hockey without saying you know nothing about hockey. C division player Id guess

 

[redgrant]

"I'm glad I made big saves for the team in the 3rd period"

It's almost like skinner is trolling us at this point.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Not a fan of knobs this post season. Bench management has been bad as have lineup construction.

On the bright side this might finally get him to make some much needed lineup changes cause we lost.

 

[Ck1]

I just saw the highlights. When the announcer said "Skinner" on the first Vegas goal, I at first thought, "Wow, that guy screwed up! He got mixed up with Pickard and Skinner."

Then, I realized Stu was actually playing!

Poor Skinner, the guy can't catch a break this season. I can't fault him on goals 2 and 4, but what was he flopping around for on goal 1? Also goal 3 seemed stoppable.

I would like to give Stu the benefit of the doubt, but he just hasn't been good enough this season. Of 20 goalies who've appeared in at least three playoff games this season, Stu is 20th in save-percentage. Now, Cal-Pick is 12th (with .888 -- far worse than Stu in last year's playoffs), so it shows that (a) Pickard probably hasn't been as good as some people think (but I guess it's all relative) and (b) You don't need to post a .920 every night for the Oilers to have a chance to win.

But there is something obviously going wrong with Stu is in net this season -- it's like the team is waiting for him to fail... waiting, waiting... until there are 0.4 seconds left, in tonight's case. But it's just inevitable.

Anyway, if you have to lose, this is a pretty good way to lose. The Oil actually got off to a 2-0 start, which is incredible given the recent standard. The Power-play finally came through. McDavid scored. And, best of all, they scored another late-goal to tie, which is something obviously in Vegas's heads now. They just know that no lead is safe against Edmonton.

The Oilers always play best when they're pissed or down. (Conversely, they're always at their worst when they're in a comfortable position.) So, I would expect an angry Oilers in ga

Hopefully they can be angry enough to out score Skinners faults
Unless Pickard is back

 

[McFlyingV]

Its just amazing that multiple posters in the thread are seeing it a different way. like still. lol

Calling it Junior level might be giving too much credit.

The funny thing in this is even Dustin Schwartz didn't play goal like this on the Golden Bears. You wouldn't see him making this play. he was stay at home. So Skinner figured to do this somewhere in his ass.

Stuart got tired of people saying he's not athletic and showed off his athleticism multiple times tonight sliding out of position, ending up on his ass, flailing around inside and outside of his crease.

 

[soothsayer]

Excuse me, I am not watching the forum like a f***ing hawk but if you must know - AAA in Manitoba a long time ago. Also coached quite a few goalies over the years.

In any case that means jack shit.

Read post 361 where I summarize why each goal was save-able including the last goal which had Stu not lost track of time (his words not mine) and kept his head on f***ing straight, he would have stayed in his net and tracked versus the poor read that he made. Draisaitls stick was in the gaping yawning cage where the goalie *should have been*....

And you really think playing AAA in Manitoba gives you the right to tell people on this board they don't know anything about hockey, when there are undoubtedly people who played at a higher level on this board, including myself, because you don't agree with their take?

Anyways, I've said my pieced. Skinner cost the Oilers this game but 4th goal is on the guy who scored on his own net with .4 seconds left. I leave it that.