Line Combos: Lines you expect to see vs what you want to see

Hammettf2b

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Gonna be an interesting mix of young players and vets on the team. Yzerman indicated Ed, AJo, and Johnny Burgers will be on the team. Raymond, Kane, Cat is a good start for the top 6 winger positions. What will the PP units look like? Lots of possibilities.
 

HisNoodliness

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Want:
Cat-Larkin-Raymond
Tank- Compher-Kane
Kasper- Copp- Berggren
Motte-Veleno- Ras

Edvinsson-Seider
AlJo-Chiarot
Gustafsson-Maatta

Talbot
Lyon

Expect:
Tank-Larkin-Raymond
Cat- Compher-Kane
Ras-Copp-Berggren
Motte-Veleno- Fischer

Chiarot-Seider
Edvinsson-Petry
Gustafsson-AlJo

Talbot
Lyon
 
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lilidk

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Plan is for 3 Rockies on the team Berggren, Edvinsson and AJo. Seider said he wants to play with Edvinsson
Edvinsson - Seider
Chiarot - Petry
Gos, Maatta, Holl, AJo . I expect rotation until Yzerman figured out who is out.
Cat Larkin Raymond
Rasmussen Compher Kane
Berggren Copp Tarasenko
Motte Fischer Veleno
If everything goes right Mazur should replace Veleno later on the season
 

norrisnick

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Expect?
DBC - Larkin - Kane
Tank - Comp - Ray
Ras - Copp - Fisch
Berg - Joe - Motte

Chia - Mo
Ed - Petry
Gus - Holl
AlJo/Olli

Talbot/Husso
Lyon

Hope?

DBC - Larkin - Kane
Berg - Comp - Ray
Ras - Copp - Tank
Motte - Joey - Fisch

Olli - Mo
Ed - Gus
Chia - AlJo
Petry/Holl

Talbot/Lyon
Husso

There is going to be a lot of forced placements where the staff want players to slot, even though it's not working. Hopefully it's shorter than the initial Chia/Mo and let's just not play Lyon experiments....
 
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Peter Tosh

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datsyukfan

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I like the idea of having 3 strong lines that can score but I’m not sure if we have enough to do that. Especially when we don’t have a lot of guys that can play the C position. I think Raymond and Larkin need to be together. In the past I actually have liked a guy like veleno with them. Rass as well. With us needing Veleno to play C I think it would need to be Rass. I could see tarasenko with Berggren as well.

Rass- Larkin- Raymond
Cat- Veleno-Kane
Berggren-Compher-tarasenko
Motte-Copp-Fischer

If we could find a way to get a tweener (2nd/3rd line C) on a 1 year deal (Compher comparable) then I like this because we have 3 solid lines. I am still terrified if we lose Larkin for any period of time as we have no centre depth.

Could definitely see the argument for just loading up the top 2 lines with the obvious top 6 guys
 
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Our Lady Peace

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Want:

Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond
Tarasenko - Compher - Kane
Rasmussen - Danielson - Berggren
Motte - Copp - Fischer

Chiarot - Seider
Edvinsson - Gustafsson
Johansson - Petry

Talbot
Lyon


Reality:

Tarasenko - Larkin - Raymond
Debrincat - Compher - Kane
Rasmussen - Copp - Berggren
Motte - Veleno - Fischer

Chiarot - Seider
Edvinsson - Petry
Gustafsson - Johansson

Husso
Talbot
Lyon
 

SantosHalper

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11 F & 7 D system
DeBrincat - Larkin - Kane
Tarasenko - Compher - Raymond
Rasmussen - Copp - Berggren
Motte - Fischer
(Veleno)

Chiarot - Seider
Edvinsson - Petry
Gustafsson - Johansson
Määttä
(Holl)

Talbot
Lyon
(Husso)

PP1
---------- Tarasenko ---------
DeBrincat --- Larkin --- Kane
----------- Seider ------------

PP2
---------- Compher ----------
Raymond ---------- Berggren
--- Edvinsson --- Gustafsson --

PK
Copp - Motte
Compher - Rasmussen
Larkin - Fischer
 

Barry Amsterdam

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Expect

Debrincat Larkin Kane
Tarasenko Compher Raymond
Rasmussen Copp Fischer
Motte Veleno Berggren

Chiarot Seider
Edvinsson Gustavsson
Mattaa Holl/Johasson

Want

Cat Larkin Raymond
Berggren Compher Kane
Rasmussen Danielson Tarasenko
Fischer Copp Motte
Veleno

Edvinsson Seider
Johansson Gustafsson
Chiarot Holl/Mattaa
 
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Henkka

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I have three different options:

Best in theory combination:

Rasmussen - Larkin - Raymond
Think the 1st line is missing physical element, and Rasmussen is the particle to bring that. Larkin and Raymond are all speed and skill, think this would work well.

DeBrincat - Compher - Kane
That Chicago connection again, with Compher's defensive work.

Berggren - Veleno - Tarasenko
Kind of offensive 4th line, Berggren feeding the TANK.

Motte - Copp - Fischer
Bulldozer line - lite. Not as good line as it was with Ras, but if this group will work well together, we will have better Top9 offence.

All the best bisquits together:

Rasmussen - Larkin - Raymond
DeBrincat - Copp - Kane
Berggren - Compher - Tarasenko

Motte - Veleno - Fischer

Different second line, mostly reminding of line from Blackhawks days as Anisimov Centering Cat & Kane.

Really strong offensive 3rd line.

Small role weak 4th line, with minor minutes. Used in situations, maybe even benched if they go with three lines only.

BULLDOZER mix:
DeBrincat - Larkin - Kane
Tarasenko - Compher - Raymond
Ras - Copp - Fischer
Motte - Veleno - Berggren


If Berggren struggles, he should be put small role at 4th line. What is left is the still the strong BULLDOZER 3rd line.

All in all, I don't hate any options, when you have enough good players. I think only lock is Larkin as 1st line Center and Motte as 4th line LW.

Everything else can be different mix.
 
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OldnotDeadWings

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Mostly a waste of time until the 2RD is acquired, and Berggren and Veleno sign new deals. Either or both and Maatta could still be traded.

Given what's on roster. Expect:

DBC-Larkin-Raymond
Ras-JT-Kane
Berggren-Copp-Tarasenko
Motte-Veleno-Fischer

Chiarot-Seider
Ed-Not on roster
AlJo/Gus/Petry

Want:

DBC-Larkin-Raymond
Berggren-JT-Kane
Ras-Danielson or Kasper-Tarasenko
Motte-Copp-Fischer

Chiarot-Seider
Ed-Larsson
Aljo/Gus/Petry
 

Chris Langlois

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I like Kane and Cat but I really feel that Cat played at his best last year with Larkin and Raymond. He looks to Kane too much and honestly teams cover him cux they know that is who Kane wants to feed the puck too.

So I'd do:
Cat-Larkin-Raymond
Tarasenko- Kasper/Danielson- Kane
Berg- JT- Ras
Motte- copp- Fischer

Edvinsson-Seider (seider wants this and Stevie talked about a big role for ed. I think they'll start pre season trying this)
Chiriot- Johansson (unless they trade for another right D)
Gust- Petry
 
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Vector Cereal

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Cat Larkin Kane
Berggren Compher Raymond
Ras Copp Tank
Motte Veleno Fischer

Chiarot Mo
Ed Petry
Maatta Gustafsson
AlJo Holl

Talbot
Lyon
Husso

I don’t mind this one bit (and my younger self is stoked to see Tank and Kane together on the Wings).

If Ed steps in and plays like a true #2/3, I could see Yzerman making a move mid season to upgrade on the right side (if he doesn’t this summer)
 

OgeeOgelthorpe

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DBC - Larkin - Raymond
Tank - Compher - Kane
Berggren - Kasper - Mazur
Rasmussen - Copp - Veleno
Fischer

Johansson/Maatta - Seider
Edvinsson - Gustafsson
Chiarot - Petry (play them no more than 18 minutes a night)
Maatta/Johansson

Lyon
Talbot

PP1
Raymond - Larkin - Tank
Seider - Kane

PP2
Berggren - Compher - Rasmussen/Kasper
Edvinsson - Gustafsson

PK
Compher - Copp
Chiarot - Seider

Rasmussen - Veleno
Edvinsson - Petry
 

Barry Amsterdam

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Apr 2, 2013
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DBC - Larkin - Raymond
Tank - Compher - Kane
Berggren - Kasper - Mazur
Rasmussen - Copp - Veleno
Fischer

Johansson/Maatta - Seider
Edvinsson - Gustafsson
Chiarot - Petry (play them no more than 18 minutes a night)
Maatta/Johansson

Lyon
Talbot

PP1
Raymond - Larkin - Tank
Seider - Kane

PP2
Berggren - Compher - Rasmussen/Kasper
Edvinsson - Gustafsson

PK
Compher - Copp
Chiarot - Seider

Rasmussen - Veleno
Edvinsson - Petry
probably a 0% DBC isn’t on a PP
 

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