Confirmed with Link: Lindy Ruff named Head Coach, Press Conference at 1:00 PM EDT

[MOGlLNY]

Buffalo wanted a playoff experience coach. Who was out there?

I think we are all mistaking me posting what EF said with me agreeing with him lol

 

[Ace]

I think we are all mistaking me posting what EF said with me agreeing with him lol

Why did you go on Friedman’s show and say these things in your EF costume if you didn’t mean them?

 

[brian_griffin]

Buffalo wanted a playoff experience coach. Who was out there?

Ruff is 16th all-time and 4th among active coaches in playoff games coached.

Lavalamp, DeBoer, Cooper active and above him.

Edit: as for who is out there, scan the list. There are some possible, but I don't think a clear upgrade over Ruff, and who would want to come to Buffalo hands-down.

 

[michaelsaas]

It is not stop massive leap of logic to wonder if his 'interviews' with other candidates were done simply so they could say they did a coaching search rather than some deep dive search they did for a new coach.

But if the interviews were conducted just to get insight from others on the teams needs, what's wrong with that?

Someone, maybe not you, mentioned they were fine with the hire but he missed an opportunity to interview others and get insight on the team. If he did that, I don't see the problem if he knew he wanted Ruff.

 

[Ace]

When Lindy was fired the Devils were 30-27-4. They went 8-12-1 afterwards…and that was with a new goalie putting up 6 appearances at a .923. He went 1-4. The Devils roster didn’t get a coaching change bump. Because the problem wasn’t the coach.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Is Ruff still being paid by the Devils for the next two years? If so it seems like this was the plan all along to appease the fanbase after chanting for Donny's dismissal and not having to pay a coach while Donny still gets paid.

 

[TehDoak]

Awesome, right on message with the conspiracy theorists. I'm sure we'll now all ignore how he was a great fit for the team. This is all Pegula's fault already!

Adams point-blank said he interviewed a dozen people. I know the internet loves to assume people are always lying, but for the life of me, sometimes you need to take people at their word.

You act like people are suggesting this is actually a clone of Lindy ruff we froze in 2009 and we sent the current Lindy ruff to a secret nazi moon base.

It’s perfectly reasonable to suggest a week long coaching search was just for show and the owner had an oversized influence in the choice.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Is Ruff still being paid by the Devils for the next two years? If so it seems like this was the plan all along to appease the fanbase after chanting for Donny's dismissal and not having to pay a coach while Donny still gets paid.

No, once a coach is hired they no longer have to be paid by another franchise. At least as I understand it.

 

[Selanne00008]

Is Ruff still being paid by the Devils for the next two years? If so it seems like this was the plan all along to appease the fanbase after chanting for Donny's dismissal and not having to pay a coach while Donny still gets paid.

Not sure it works like that with NHL coaches. Vs. say, Russel Wilson signing with the Stealers for 1 Million since the Seahawks have to pay him 40.

 

[Gabrielor]

Tf is this about? Just because you don’t like what Friedman said doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to post it.

I’ve said I liked this hire the entire way and said the 6-7 day timeline wasn’t a big deal if he knew exactly who he wanted

Chill out on being so agro

It isn't directed at you, unless you happen to believe that the Sabres being bad is part of a Pegula conspiracy to make/save money.

You just posted it, so I just responded.

 

[Tatanka]

I’ve made it to the point where they start talking about who’s making what. I don’t think Andrew understands that once somebody takes a contract somewhere else as a coach. Their former team isn’t on the book anymore. Unless something is fundamentally changed, once a guy gets hired, his old contract is now void and he doesn’t get any money. What the f*** am I even doing listening to this trash?

Without seeing the actually contract, most professional services agreements have a clawback clause where the employer gets a clawback of any monies earned by the employee, i.e. a credit, against what is owed by the employer. If Lindy’s new deal doesn’t exceed what he was to be paid under the NJ deal he would collect the difference between those amounts. It essentially puts Ruff in the same position he would have been had he not been terminated without cause.

 

[Zman5778]

Is Ruff still being paid by the Devils for the next two years? If so it seems like this was the plan all along to appease the fanbase after chanting for Donny's dismissal and not having to pay a coach while Donny still gets paid.

Not at all. Once Lindy signs here, the Devils are free and clear of whatever they owe Lindy.

 

[EichHart]

I also think there wasn’t exactly a waiting list of coaches to come here after 13 yrs of no playoffs and a revolving door at gm and coach.

 

[Tatanka]

Not at all. Once Lindy signs here, the Devils are free and clear of whatever they owe Lindy.

Only if the Sabres are paying him more. He gets the benefit of the bargain of the deal. If NJ owed him 2 million a year and the Sabres are paying 1 million he would still be getting a million from NJ.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

No, once a coach is hired they no longer have to be paid by another franchise. At least as I understand it.

Depends on how their contract is worded. I think most coaching contracts have "offset" language, so if Team A fires their coach, and that coach is hired by Team B, then Team A is only on the hook for the difference in salary if they are making less coaching Team B. In other words, the Team A salary is partially offset by the Team B salary, so the coach isn't double-dipping, but they don't end up with a pay cut for taking another job after being fired.

 

[Dubi Doo]

The only thing I'm worried about is that Adams thinks his roster is hunkie dorie and won't make any changes

I very much doubt that, and I think Lindy will want changes. He wants role players, which this team is currently lacking.

 

[slip]

Not at all. Once Lindy signs here, the Devils are free and clear of whatever they owe Lindy.

Has anyone tallied up how much Pegula has paid out to his terminated coaches? Gotta be around 15 million ballpark.

 

[BUCKSHOT]

Has anyone tallied up how much Pegula has paid out to his terminated coaches? Gotta be around 15 million ballpark.

no way !!

can't be true

they tell me that Pegula is cheap

 

[slip]

no way !!

can't be true

they tell me that Pegula is cheap

Far from cheap, but penny wise, pound foolish for sure.

 

[Ace]

no way !!

can't be true

they tell me that Pegula is cheap

He saved more than that each of the last three years on nothing more than roster salary. And that’s with an artificially deflated cap meant to reimburse him already. There was a bloodletting in the organization when Adams was hired that has set them behind the 8 ball in every way. They’re telling you the right thing. You should listen.

 

[5 Minute Major]

 

[Uberpecker]

Just woke up from the weirdest dream, I dreamt we had rehired Lindy but in 2024.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

UPL extension incoming: 4 x 4.5

I dunno price but if they end up just extending him the two years that cover his RFA status, that is a bad sign.

 

[toomuchsauce]

in particular, I liked how Ruff described accountability in the same terms as Gronato (...which gronato got pilloried for)

 

[MOGlLNY]

in particular, I liked how Ruff described accountability in the same terms as Gronato (...which gronato got pilloried for)

I thought a lot of people agreed with Granato completely on that ?