Proposal: Lindholm to Canucks for Hunter Brustewicz +
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Baby Pettersson
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Canucks have to add. Lots of teams can beat this.
That said I'm all in for Lindholm.
That said I'm all in for Lindholm.
BWJM
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I’d be a little hesitant on a 7yr contract with Lindholm.
Tanev + Lindholm would be ideal for the Canucks.
Tanev + Lindholm would be ideal for the Canucks.
John Mandalorian
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I think the fact the Canucks can offer a combo hybrid of a rebuild and retool package makes this a strong package.
It seems that Calgary is not interested in blowing it up. Getting someone like Kuzmenko surely helps that thinking. How many teams can offer a 27 yr old 39 goal scorer?
Add that in with a 1st rnd pick and one of our top prospects in Brustewicz and this is an offer that the Flames would at least entertain.
Some Other Flame
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Should have used Elias Pettersson instead for the reactions. Missed opportunity
Because they just re-started playing on a line together and that line has something like 20 pts in their last 3 games. If they want to continue to deploy them together then they need to upgrade their 2C position.
BWJM
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Lotto Line is a thing again
Would they beat it is the question?
B+ prospect (Arguably an A prospect according to some people with his incredible OHL season), a 1st and Kuzmenko, who could easily bounce back in the right system and become his electrifying self again is a really interesting offer for the Flames; especially considering that FO does not want to tank.
Appeases both the "we need futures" crowd while bringing in a player who could legitimately put up a 1st line calibre season again.
John Mandalorian
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They plan on running this line all season?
Blackhawks used to split up Kane and Toews until critical moments.
Seems like a pretty solid offer from my pov.. Had to google what a Brustewicz was, since I thought it was some sort of limited edition Budwiser bratwurst or something 
Hell of a season he's putting together in Kitchener.
Hell of a season he's putting together in Kitchener.I dont know if they plan on keeping this line but its one heck of a nuclear option to have.
The Canucks have never swept a Tri-State road trip ever and they just did that this week. Lotto Line had 20 points in the 3 game vs NJ, NYR, NYI. 3 games in 4 nights as well.
If they can get someone like Lindholm then i see no reason on why they shouldnt keep that line together.
Seems like a pretty solid offer from my pov.. Had to google what a Brustewicz was, since I thought it was some sort of limited edition Budwiser bratwurst or something
I hope people dont mis-read what I wrote on the OP.
Hunter is the OHL Leading scorer....
not just for a Dman...but overall
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Whether its likely/realistic or not, that certainly explains the enthusiasm behind the idea of acquiring Lindholm. Thanks for clarifying.
BKarchitect
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Brz has been a fantastic player in juniors this year.
I'm still leary about his ultimate NHL upside and chances to "pop" at the highest level.
Not saying the OP is doing this since he put other things of value in the offer - but I have seen talk of him being some sort of blue-chip asset based on his OHL stats - which are very eye-popping.
I think that's way premature. Very solid evidence thus far that his third round drafting was a round too late but I would stop any further than that if assessing his value from another team's standpoint.
To me the late 1st is still probably the key piece of this offer. But combined, that's two pretty good future assets.
I'm still leary about his ultimate NHL upside and chances to "pop" at the highest level.
Not saying the OP is doing this since he put other things of value in the offer - but I have seen talk of him being some sort of blue-chip asset based on his OHL stats - which are very eye-popping.
I think that's way premature. Very solid evidence thus far that his third round drafting was a round too late but I would stop any further than that if assessing his value from another team's standpoint.
To me the late 1st is still probably the key piece of this offer. But combined, that's two pretty good future assets.
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Bobby9
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Its a above market deal for a UFA
A 1st, a good (not amazing) prospect and a top 6 forward.
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The Canucks are trading this year's Kuzmenko who is a 28 year old, 20 goal/40 point scorer signed for this year and next at $5.5 million. He offers nothing to the Flames rebuild, and the owners aren't just going to throw away $7ish million dollars. He also has a full NMC/NTC. He's likely not accepting this trade.
I really like Brustewicz. I like the 1st round pick too. I'm not at all interested in Kuzmenko. If you're dumping a bad contract on us I'd like compensation for that. I'd also like another piece for Lindholm. Something like this:
2024 1st round pick
Brustewicz
2025 2nd round pick
I don't think Brustewicz will ever score at a high level, but he could be a 3C for a long time. He has a motor on him and is a good skater. He shoots in like Tanev though, he'll never score in the NHL.
2024 1st round pick
Brustewicz
2025 2nd round pick
I don't think Brustewicz will ever score at a high level, but he could be a 3C for a long time. He has a motor on him and is a good skater. He shoots in like Tanev though, he'll never score in the NHL.
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Ideally for the Flames, a bubble team is seriously interested. The winning bids for Duchene, Hall (19-20) and Horvat came from clubs comfortably outside the top tier. There’s a meaningful difference in quality between a mid to late teens 1st and a pick that right now (by points percentage) can be no higher than 26OA.
If not available, that looks competitive.
If not available, that looks competitive.
This years Kuzmenko?
So are we trading for this years Lindholm then?
26 points and a minus 5 player?
Frank the Tank
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I know it's a trade discussion board for hockey fans, but I'm always amused when an OP creates a turd polishing thread in an attempt to convince random fans of another team that they should pull the trigger.
Like, OK, you convinced me that Kuzmenko didn't sign a big contract this off-season and then regress severely. Let me call Craig Conroy and tell him to look at this sell job on HFBoards, after which he'll get this trade done ASAP.
I mean let's not pretend that Kuzmenko is anything other than what he is. You guys should have known 28% shooting isn't sustainable. Everyone said it, only Canucks fans somehow thought it was. This isn't "this year's version" of Kuzmenko. It's what he is. He's still shooting 15.4% which is still high.
Lindholm is playing with 3rd liners. If you don't want him there are plenty of other teams offering comparable/better packages without a cap dump in them.
Flames would have to retain on Lindholm then and or the Canucks need to make a separate move to fit Lindholm in.
Flipped, Kuzmenko easily gets you back a 2nd round pick... for instance theres a rumor circulating that the Sabres have an offer for Kuzmenko which is Greenway 2nd and 3rd.
Brustewicz and 1st is definitely the main core of the trade though
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