Let's Watch: 1972 Summit Series, Game 4/8

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I've read the intro, and will get to the breakdowns soon - within a day or two. Be forewarned though - there is no one who is worse at, or hates math more than I do, and if the math continues I see the potential for becoming highly confused.
No worries, Mr. Chairman. All good either way. I felt the need to introduce a bit of math at the front end, but try to phase it out quickly as it's only to introduce how improbable the picture is. Beyond a certain point number crunching isn't necessary, when things get so improbable, doing so distracts from the main point imo.
 
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No worries, Mr. Chairman. All good either way. I felt the need to introduce a bit of math at the front end, but try to phase it out quickly as it's only to introduce how improbable the picture is. Beyond a certain point number crunching isn't necessary, when things get so improbable, doing so distracts from the main point imo.

Indeed, there is enough math involved that my eyes are now glazed over. I didn't graduate from high school when people normally do. It took a car accident which meant the loss of my career and then attending North Island College for a couple years around 2005 to actually get my grade 12 diploma. If it weren't for the enormous patience of a math teacher, I never would have graduated. I lean far more to things like history and the creative rather than the analytical.

Math aside, this is amazing:

"A very big goal. But in fact Henderson scored the game-winners in each of the Summit Series’ last three games, all of which Canada had to win in order to not lose the series."

*break*

"Henderson later moved on to the World Hockey Association, which played its very first game less than two weeks after the Summit Series concluded. In the WHA he only scored 3 game-winning goals in 360 regular seasons games..."

Remarkable. And in spite of the math, the odds are not lost on me.

I have little recollection of the 1987 Canada Cup. In fact, I have none. It was near the end of a dark time in my life and my brain was usually in an altered state. I can't add much more except to say, perhaps I should watch the series?

2010 Vancouver

The memories I have of Team Canada revolve considerably around Roberto Luongo. He was the hometown goalie playing on the biggest hockey stage of his life, and of all Canadians' lives. I recall not having complete confidence in him. In the previous couple of years he had crapped the bed in big games against Chicago in the Stanley Cup Playoffs which led to Vancouver's defeat, and I watched much of the gold medal game through my fingers which were covering my face. And yes, he did look shaky at times, and the two goals he let in weren't exactly snipes by Joe Sakic from the slot. I was happy he was given the start in the gold medal game, but I was so nervous. The Canucks were already quite hated by this time by much of Canada, and if Luongo let our entire country down by letting in a bad goal and we lost the gold medal, it would have been disastrous. On this forum alone we would have been vilified. I could barely watch the overtime. It was that uncomfortable for me.

Then, it was not Luongo who let in a weak one, it was Ryan Miller. I did not see that coming, particularly after Miller's stellar performance to that point.

How do you spell relief? C-R-O-S-B-Y.
 
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Thanks again Mr. Chairman. I had just posted the link on the numbers board. Your comments are both generous and appreciated. Subsequent posts may be better there, as I don't want to derail this thread. - A novel look at Canada's Three Greatest Hockey Goals

I was going to suggest you post that here on HF, on this sub-forum. I had forgotten about the Numbers forum. Yeah, I think people will find it interesting.

PH, your comments at times can be challenging to reply to. The detail and the height from which you plunge into the topic of discussion can leave a considerable ripple effect, of which extrapolations are carried to every craggy shore. If one is to be respectful by way of replying, this can take considerable time and thought. We have all seen this from other people who like to say a lot without really saying a lot and who find that self-gratifying, The same is not usually the case for those who are forced to listen to him or her. It is not as enjoyable.

Not so in your case. You make it a challenge which requires one to find a sensical and thoughtful reply which will hold up under peer-reviewed-level scrutiny, lest they be left choking on your dust, and gagging on the smell of your burnt rubber before they have even advanced off of the starting line. For those who reply to you, they run the risk of watching you give them a one-handed salute from the open window of your Plymouth Belvedere sleeper, not loaded with the 97 hp straight-6 engine, but with a Mopar 426 cu. Hemi, leaving them looking at the rear of your car with their chins hanging low.

How's that for a complex metaphor?

I'm sure we will talk again.
 
We have all seen this from other people who like to say a lot without really saying a lot and who find that self-gratifying, The same is not usually the case for those who are forced to listen to him or her. It is not as enjoyable.
I agree. What do they say about opinions?

Not so in your case. You make it a challenge...

Such a simple test too.
A great metaphor, Mr. Chairman. Imo testing is the only thing that matters, not opinion.
 
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Game 4, the more I think about it, the less classly the Vancouver fans are. Yeah I get it, they were frustrated, all of Canada was, but there just seemed to be a personal tone against the team with the booing. 50 years later the players always talk about it. They never forget. It brought out the greatest sports speech in history as far as I am concerned.

I often wonder what happens if Canada manages to hold onto a 4-2 lead in Game 3 in Winnipeg. If we win that game instead of a tie, what does it do to our confidence? Maybe it doesn't matter, as we were still needing to get into shape, but with a win we are 2-1 going into Game 4. We win the last two games, it would start to look like maybe Game 1 was an aberration, something that caught us off guard. With a win in Game 3 Tony Esposito plays in net - who played the best out of anyone on either team. The same sort of line up happens in Game 4 from Game 3. Who knows.
 
"Game 4, the more I think about it, the less classly the Vancouver fans are. Yeah I get it, they were frustrated, all of Canada was, but there just seemed to be a personal tone against the team with the booing. 50 years later the players always talk about it. They never forget. It brought out the greatest sports speech in history as far as I am concerned."

I remember my own mood well at the end of Game Four, it was one of exasperation and I was very annoyed. When Esposito came over I was like, "Let's just get this damned thing over with." Very righteously annoyed, I expected some sort of fluff interview filled with the usual BS.

That was the first thing, my shock when Phil went completely off that usual script. My surprise created an opening, and as I listened I realized that my own indignity was part of what he was referring to. But then, as he continued, I realized that he was calling the entire nation out, in the name of standing up for his teammates. That lead to a feeling of awe, and I *recognized* that I was listening to a true Leader.

We live in a world where so many frauds assume positions of authority, then parrot the words of other in attempt to fit some sort of cookie cutter mold. This was different.

At the time I was and always had been a hard core Montreal fan. I did not care for Boston, so until then I had not cared much for Esposito and his other teammates. It may be false memory, but one of my lingering impressions is one of seeing TC72 head to the locker room. For the first time I saw all of those guys as representing Canada and not just American teams. They were me and they were us.

In my own mind, there is no way to separate the Speech from what lay ahead. You could not set up a more heroic storyline than to have Esposito say what he did then, only to lead the team going forward and finish with four points in the final game.

Finally Big Phil, as for those Vancouver fans I would say this. Most of the booing came from traditional reflexes, as NHL fans do when their teams play badly. What we didn't know that evening was that the terms were different. We had to learn how to be fans of a proper national team. That I don't recall ever seeing this happen again in the last 50 years is, for me, proof that this lesson was well learned.
 
Fantastic story about Linden, Team Canada, Crosby, et cetera. How ironic is that you were actually hired to boo your team.

I forgot to point out, as for the Game Four parallels, we were booing our home team because they had just lost by 72 points.
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In the fictitious game, right?
Yes, as the scoreboard shows 248 to 176. As I was saying, by then this sort of thing had been happening quite a lot during my time in film and TV, but I could only see how that applied to the past and the unfolding present. No idea that the same was occurring with respect to future considerations and no just with Crosby. The online version of this show debuted 313 days later, on April 21 09. 313 days after that, Crosby scores the Golden Goal. There's actually much more going on here, but I'll stop now
 
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Yes, as the scoreboard shows 248 to 176. As I was saying, by then this sort of thing had been happening quite a lot during my time in film and TV, but I could only see how that applied to the past and the unfolding present. No idea that the same was occurring with respect to future considerations and no just with Crosby. The online version of this show debuted 313 days later, on April 21 09. 313 days after that, Crosby scores the Golden Goal. There's actually much more going on here, but I'll stop now.
Missed the scoreboard but at least I was right. :laugh:
 
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