OT: Lets talk about stocks (Part 3)

We've hearing that these things are just right around the corner, "3-4 years away" for at least a decade now.

What is different this time? Any tangible indication it might actually be close?

And how many of these things have to actually materialize for the valuation to make sense? I mean, they're not like one good idea away from making the valuation make sense. It will take multiple entirely new markets for it to nake sense. And then what, they won't have competitors? They'll have monopoly on those markets forever?

It looks like wishful thinking to me. Pure fantasy even. But good for you if you made money on the stock.

Disclaimer: I still wouldn't short the stock. Market can stay irrational way longer than it makes sense. Especially cult-like stocks.

looks like FSD is rolling out in China and Cali this month, and I agree it's a waiting game. I don't have the balls to short TSLA at these levels, this is when I loaded up last time around. I'm waiting to see how the trade war settles, our firm have sold 90% of our CDN equities at this time, and a lot of US as well.. just sitting in cash for a bit. I'm guessing we are in a recession till the fall
 
looks like FSD is rolling out in China and Cali this month, and I agree it's a waiting game. I don't have the balls to short TSLA at these levels, this is when I loaded up last time around. I'm waiting to see how the trade war settles, our firm have sold 90% of our CDN equities at this time, and a lot of US as well.. just sitting in cash for a bit. I'm guessing we are in a recession till the fall

Also people seem to forget that the market isn't the economy. So even if we or the US are headed for a recession, that doesn't necessarily means bad news for stocks.

Things are hard enough to predict when the US leadership is stable, it's pretty much impossible to get a good forecast for the short term now :laugh:
 
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Also people seem to forget that the market isn't the economy. So even if we or the US are headed for a recession, that doesn't necessarily means bad news for stocks.

Things are hard enough to predict when the US leadership is stable, it's pretty much impossible to get a good forecast for the short term now :laugh:

Don't worry though, they are following the 'plan':

“Markets don’t like uncertainty. Markets like, actually, totalitarian governments… Democracies are very messy.” -Larry Fink, Bloomberg, 2011

Larry Fink is CEO of Black Rock, and has managed both some of Trump's and Musk's investments. Black Rock's major stockholder is Bank of America.
 
Don't worry though, they are following the 'plan':

“Markets don’t like uncertainty. Markets like, actually, totalitarian governments… Democracies are very messy.” -Larry Fink, Bloomberg, 2011

Larry Fink is CEO of Black Rock, and has managed both some of Trump's and Musk's investments. Black Rock's major stockholder is Bank of America.
well you didn't think the equity market was based on fair trade and equal information did you? lol
 
I've got a diversified portfolio consisting mainly of ETFs and such. That means I can afford to take a little more risk with a very small part of said portfolio.

So does any of you degenerates have some spicy tarifs play that I can research some more before losing money I invest in it?

That may sound sarcastic but I'm really open to buying some individual stocks, even if history tells us I should just buy the index funds.
 
I've got a diversified portfolio consisting mainly of ETFs and such. That means I can afford to take a little more risk with a very small part of said portfolio.

So does any of you degenerates have some spicy tarifs play that I can research some more before losing money I invest in it?

That may sound sarcastic but I'm really open to buying some individual stocks, even if history tells us I should just buy the index funds.

not exactly a spicy play, but im buying REITs like RioCan and Primaris. Tariffs or not, businesses gotta pay their rents :laugh:.
 
Another beating for Netlist. At this rate it will be diluted to the extinction. Going from court to court is expensive and it seems they'll never reach the point where Samsung etc. has to pay them. They either fold or stock has to be diluted so heavily that there's not much to gain when it finally happens.
 
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Another beating for Netlist. At this rate it will be diluted to the extinction. Going from court to court is expensive and it seems they'll never reach the point where Samsung etc. has to pay them. They either fold or stock has to be diluted so heavily that there's not much to gain when it finally happens.

nonsense. The judge was replaced today but still waiting to hear why since they just met last week and both sides didn't have any problem with him staying on. Samsung is caught red handed, they will owe Netlist Billions and Micron before the big Google case which goes back to 2009.

The market maker can play all the games he wants, in the end, Netlist is going to have Billions.
 
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nonsense. The judge was replaced today but still waiting to hear why since they just met last week and both sides didn't have any problem with him staying on. Samsung is caught red handed, they will owe Netlist Billions and Micron before the big Google case which goes back to 2009.

The market maker can play all the games he wants, in the end, Netlist is going to have Billions.
Sounds like it will go to a reduced out of court settlement
 
Sounds like it will go to a reduced out of court settlement

it was always headed for settlement as something like 94 or 96% of these patent infringement cases end up in settlement. But you have the CEO of Samsung in an email saying he knew he was not allowed to give away Netlist's tech to other companies. They have never even tried to defend themselves really, just delay everything and it's costly them dearly though they can easily afford it.

We still don't know why the judge recused himself after they just meet in the pre trial conference and there was no issues from either side and yet 2 days into the re-trial (which is a scam to begin with) he says he has to recuse himself? Makes no sense unless of course something personal came up. So unless Samsung paid him to do this and paid the judge that's taking his place today, Samsung is going to lose again for the 3rd time cause they are 100% caught red handed.
 
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I've got a diversified portfolio consisting mainly of ETFs and such. That means I can afford to take a little more risk with a very small part of said portfolio.

So does any of you degenerates have some spicy tarifs play that I can research some more before losing money I invest in it?

That may sound sarcastic but I'm really open to buying some individual stocks, even if history tells us I should just buy the index funds.
I don't know if it's necessarily a tarif play, but I'm looking at AMD personally. The stock is on sale at 50% of it's 52w high. Do your own research, of course, this is not financial advice. I'm looking at a 50% return in the coming years, once i get it I'll probably get out. It could be a falling knife, but to me it's a very interesting price right now for one of the top chipmakers. Of course, it's not as sexy as Nvidia in terms of AI potential, but it might get there eventually. Being a gaming enthusiast, I know they provide some of the best processors on the market right now, with Intel shitting the bed, and their new GPU line is decent, they've given up on competing on the higher echelon with Nvidia until they improve their product, so they're going for a better bang for buck option in the midrange and eventually volume. If they can somehow repeat what they did on the processors side, I see a good return on the stock. FWIW, I'm going at most with 2% of my PF in this. If it crashes, it's not a big deal me, even if it explodes up, won't matter in the grand schemes of things.

Looks like the stock is up 9% over the past week, so it's still time to get in. There is the Canadian CDR option too which is nice, you don't have to get USD to get into the stock.

I am like you mostly in index funds, so it's just for the kick of it. Having 2% in those long shots prevents me from messing around with the rest of the portfolio.
 
Tesla isn't a car company, the tech will bring them back. FSD rolling out, robotaxi, energy storage, AI .. they just need to shut Elon up for a couple months. Russia is an untapped revenue source as well, I imagine that will come online soon enough.

I own a lot of it, but can honestly say he has to STFU and get back to work for his shareholders
As of now it's really mostly just a car company. Whatever all those things will ever materialize with them as a leader is a big question mark. It's often not the company that sells a new technology as a dream in advance that ends up being the one dominating the market. Google was kind of late to the party in most things they did (search engine, smart phone) but still ended up on top leaving the other companies behind (Blackberry, Palm, Excite, Altavista, ...). Elon looks very unstable and come across as dumb in all interviews i see of him so i would not bet on any of his companies personally.
 
I've got a diversified portfolio consisting mainly of ETFs and such. That means I can afford to take a little more risk with a very small part of said portfolio.

So does any of you degenerates have some spicy tarifs play that I can research some more before losing money I invest in it?

That may sound sarcastic but I'm really open to buying some individual stocks, even if history tells us I should just buy the index funds.
Euro defense companies, albeit, they have run up some but it'll likely be in a long term upswing as the EU finally realized that depending on the US is a dumb idea. They have already announced but will likely be trying to fully move away from buying US military goods. With that said, Canadian defense companies (what little we have) might also be interesting but certainly still risky.
 
looks like FSD is rolling out in China and Cali this month, and I agree it's a waiting game. I don't have the balls to short TSLA at these levels, this is when I loaded up last time around. I'm waiting to see how the trade war settles, our firm have sold 90% of our CDN equities at this time, and a lot of US as well.. just sitting in cash for a bit. I'm guessing we are in a recession till the fall
They should be starting to test their robots (if not already) inside the factories which would rapidly speed up actual roll-out.
 
As of now it's really mostly just a car company. Whatever all those things will ever materialize with them as a leader is a big question mark. It's often not the company that sells a new technology as a dream in advance that ends up being the one dominating the market. Google was kind of late to the party in most things they did (search engine, smart phone) but still ended up on top leaving the other companies behind (Blackberry, Palm, Excite, Altavista, ...). Elon looks very unstable and come across as dumb in all interviews i see of him so i would not bet on any of his companies personally.
*shrug* If you say so. Their energy business is growing by leaps and bounds, albeit, it's only 10% of Tesla's total revenue. At its current rate of growth, it could eclipse their auto business in 5 years. Not likely but not impossible either.
 
As of now it's really mostly just a car company. Whatever all those things will ever materialize with them as a leader is a big question mark. It's often not the company that sells a new technology as a dream in advance that ends up being the one dominating the market. Google was kind of late to the party in most things they did (search engine, smart phone) but still ended up on top leaving the other companies behind (Blackberry, Palm, Excite, Altavista, ...). Elon looks very unstable and come across as dumb in all interviews i see of him so i would not bet on any of his companies personally.
Oh I agree, he needs to step away for a bit. I am sticking to covered calls for now, I'm very unsure of what is going to happen
 
They should be starting to test their robots (if not already) inside the factories which would rapidly speed up actual roll-out.

The solar division, storage, the robots.. one of the most innovative companies on the planet and getting roasted by the insane left at every chance. Elon deserves the flack, but lighting cars on fire.. threatening people from driving a Tesla lol, just insanity.

The same people who hate TSLA forget who was behind VW, and when Ford Motors used to send pamphlets out to all dealers called 'The International Jew'
 
The solar division, storage, the robots.. one of the most innovative companies on the planet and getting roasted by the insane left at every chance. Elon deserves the flack, but lighting cars on fire.. threatening people from driving a Tesla lol, just insanity.

The same people who hate TSLA forget who was behind VW, and when Ford Motors used to send pamphlets out to all dealers called 'The International Jew'
Ah the infamous leftist argument ...
 
Ah the infamous leftist argument ...
Well the left in the US are infamous for torching shit when they disagree. What can I say, i've seen it enough. The right have their own issues, i'm not suggesting it's a one way street. I have lived in LA and seen how Pejorative Slured the left are, so yeah I'm tainted for sure.
 
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