OT: Let's talk about Movies and TV Shows, Part XXX (...how can this possibly go wrong)

[Habs]

Some blokes from America were saying that The Bear is a must watch show. The title should be called UNBEARABLE as it was rubbish. Read some reviews afterwards and who are these people that love it? must be part of that crowd that's into those unreal reality shows claptrap.

I thought it was just me, so good to know. The cringeworthy acting and dialogue , the characters are just punchable.

 

[rik schau]

I thought it was just me, so good to know. The cringeworthy acting and dialogue , the characters are just punchable.

I don't get it,but I like nothing. Times we mind the kids kids and see what they watch,I wonder who they are.lol

 

[angusyoung]

Been forever since seeing this but it's still worth watching, some good laughs, and what can you say about Jaime Lee Curtis's rack

 

[Runner77]

F the hyperbolic claims of this tweet, there are some good movies listed. How many have you seen from these and liked?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

So , did they ruin Gladiator like they ruin everything else?

 

[Runner77]

So , did they ruin Gladiator like they ruin everything else?

Heard a reviewer yesterday say that the way they used CGI in this one is making it look like a cartoon.

 

[LaP]

F the hyperbolic claims of this tweet, there are some good movies listed. How many have you seen from these and liked?

The big short is definitely worth a watch.

 

[LaP]

So , did they ruin Gladiator like they ruin everything else?

They delivered what the viewers want. At the end of the day people are the one ruining the movies by paying to watch crap. It was predictable all along btw. Simply stop paying for crap.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

F the hyperbolic claims of this tweet, there are some good movies listed. How many have you seen from these and liked?

What are those 8 movies? I don't see the list.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

My son took me to Gladiator II IMAX this afternoon.

Decent sequel, Denzel seemed a little miscast, IMHO.

 

[Habs Icing]

So , did they ruin Gladiator like they ruin everything else?

Yeap

 

[LV426]

I've been interested in adaptations of The Count of Monte Cristo. The most recent hails from France this summer and is apparently now showing at Cinema Guzzo.

Following up on a Reddit thread, I could not believe how many film and series adaptations were produced around the world. I'd love to be able to see as many as possible but am afraid most of these will be difficult to find.

I've seen three US adaptations (1934, 1975, 2002) and a couple from France.

How many of these have you seen and which would you recommend?

Film and TV adaptations of the original story​

· 1908: The Count of Monte Cristo, first known film of the San Diego coast, directed by Francis Boggs.

· 1908: Le Prisonnier du Château d'If, directed by Victorin Jasset.

· 1908: Il conte di Montecristo, directed by Luigi Maggi.

· 1910: The count of monte cristo, produced by Challenger Prod Company.

· 1911: Monte Cristo starred by Stuart Holmes.

· 1912: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Colin Campbell, it was destroyed due to copyright issues.

· 1912: Il Conte di Montecristo, directed by Giuseppe De Liguoro.

· 1913: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Joseph A. Golden and Edwin S. Porter.

· 1915: Die Totenhand des Grafen von Monte Cristo, directed by Hans Otto Löwenstein.

· 1918: Le Comte de Monte Cristo, directed by Henri Pouctal.

· 1921: Der Graf von Monte Cristo, produced by Astoria Film Wien.

· 1922: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Emmett J. Flynn.

· 1929: Le Comte de Monte-Cristo, directed by Henri Fescourt.

· 1934: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Rowland V. Lee.

· 1942: El Conde de Montecristo, directed by Chano Urueta and starred by Arturo de Córdova.

· 1943: Le Comte de Monte Cristo, french-italian film directed by Robert Vernay.

· 1953: El Conde de Montecristo, starred by Jorge Mistral.

· 1954: Le Comte de Monte-Cristo, series directed by Robert Vernay.

· 1956: The Count of Monte Cristo, created by Sidney Marshall.

· 1961: Le Comte de Monte- Cristo, directed by Claude Autant-Lara.

· 1964: The Count of Monte Cristo, BBC television serial starring Alan Badel and Natasha Parry

· 1965: Greven av Monte Christo, directed by Kent Nilssen and Alfred Solaas, starred by Knut Risan.

· 1966: Il conte di Montecristo, directed by Edmo Fenogio.

· 1969: El Conde de Montecristo, spanish film directed by Pedro Amalio López.

· 1973: The Count of Monte Cristo, animated short film by Hanna Barbera.

· 1975: The Count of Monte Cristo , starring Richard Chamberlain, directed by David Greene.

· 1979: Le Comte de Monte-Cristo , directed by Denys de la Patelliére.

· 1984: The Count of Monte Cristo, animated short film by GoodTimes.

· 1988: The Prisoner of Castle If, Soviet miniseries starring Viktor Avilov and Aleksei Petrenko.

· 1991: Story Time Collection: The Count of Monte Cristo, animated short film starring David Baldwin.

· 1997: The Count of Monte Cristo, animation byBlye Migicovsky Productions and Phoenix Animation Studios.

· 1998: The Count of Monte Cristo , television serial starring Gérard Depardieu.

· 2002: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Kevin Reynolds.

· 2002: El Conde de Montecristo, cuban TV series directed by Rafael Acosta and Noemí Cartaya.

Loosely based films​

· 1917: A Modern Monte Cristo, directed by Eugene Moore.

· 1929: Der Monte Christo von Prag, directed by Hans Otto.

· 1948: The Secret of Monte Cristo, directed by Albert Valentin.The film is based on the purported real story behind the novel.

· 1950: The Prince of Revenge, Egyptian movie, directed by Henry Barkat.

· 1951: María Montecristo, directed by Luis César Amadori.

· 1954: El Vizconde de Montecristo by Gilberto Martínez starring Tin Tan.

· 1954: Karkottai, a 1954 Indian Tamil-language film produced and directed by Kemparaj Urs.

· 1958: Vanjikkottai Valiban or Raj Tilak, Karkottai adaptation .

· 1964: The Crafty One (أمير الدهاء), Egyptian film directed by Henry Barakat, starring Farid Shawqi.

· 1967: Lunghi giorni della vendetta, Western film directed by Florestano Vancini.

· 1968: Amgolwang, directed by In-hyeon Choi.

· 1968: Sous le signe de Monte Cristo, directed by André Hunebelle.

· 1976: The Circle of Revenge (دائرة الانتقام), Egyptian film directed by Samir Seif, starring Nour El-Sherif.

· 1977: The Great Vendetta, starring Adam Cheng.

· 1977: Bhuierantlo Munis is a 1977 Indian Konkani-language drama film.

· 1982: Padayottam is a 1982 Indian Malayalam-language epic period drama film directed by Jijo Punnoose.

· 1986: Veta is a 1986 Indian Telugu-language period action film starring Chiranjeevi, Jaya Prada and Sumalatha

· 1986: Legacy of Rage, a Cantonese-language Hong Kong film adaptation, starring Brandon Lee.

· 1986: Asipatha Mamai, a Sinhala film adaptation.

· 1999: Forever Mine Film starring Joseph Fiennes, Ray Liotta and Gretchen Mol.

· 2003: Oldboy, directed by Chan-Wook.

Loosely based series​

· 1956: The Count of Monte Cristo (TV series), TV series based on further adventures of Edmond Dantes after the end of the novel

· 1971: Le Comte de Monte-Cristo (Les Cent Livres), réalisé par Claude Santelli et Michel Favart.

· 1974: La indomable, venezuelan soap opera for canal RCTV.

· 1977: La venganza , directed by Valentín Pimstein.

· 1979: Nihon Gankutsuou [ja] (日本巌窟王), Japanese television serial set in Edo period, starring Masao Kusakari

· 1984: Marimar, mexican soap opera directed by Verónica Pimstein.

· 1984: Los títeres, chilean soap opera created by Sergio Vodanović.

· 1984: La dueña, venezuelan soap opera directed by José Ignacio Cabrujas and Julio César Mármol.

· 1986: La dama de rosa, venezuelan soap opera starring Jeannette Rodríguez and Carlos Mata.

· 1990: Yo compro esa mujer, created by Olga Ruilópez.

· 1996: Ithihaas made by Balaji productions for doordarshan channel in India.

· 1997: Cambio de piel, directed by José Ignacio Cabrujas.

· 2004: Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo, Japanese animation adaptation. Produced by Gonzo, directed by Mahiro Maeda

· 2004: Amarte es mi pecado mexican soap opera produced by Ernesto Alonso.

· 2005: La madrastra, mexican soap opera by Salvador Mejía.

· 2006: Vingança (telenovela), directed by Rodrigo Riccó and Paulo Rosa, SIC Portugal

· 2006: Montecristo: Un Amor, Una Venganza(Argentine telenovela), starring Pablo Echarri and Paola Krum

· 2006: Dueña y señora , puertorrican soap opera produced by Cordial International Inc.

· 2006: Montecristo: El Amor Nunca Muere, Mexican soap opera starring Silvia Navarro and Diego Olivera

· 2008: Montecristo, colombian soap opera starring Juan Carlos Vargas

· 2010: Ezel (TV series), a Turkish television series billed as an adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo.

· 2011: Revenge (2011 TV series), a television series billed as an adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo.

· 2011: Un amore e una vendetta is an Italian television series based on the argentine telenovela Montecristo: Un Amor, una Venganza

· 2012: Avenida Brasil, brazilian soap opera produced by Rede Globo.

· 2012: Antsanoty, an Armenia-Armenian television series.

· 2013: İntikam is the Turkish version of the ABC TV series Revenge.

· 2013: Flor del Caribe, brazilian soap opera produced by Rede Globo.

· 2013: La Patrona, directed by Valentina Párraga.

· 2014: Sin Identidad, starring Megan Montaner.

· 2015: Nirvana in Fire (Chinese: 琅琊榜) directed by Kong Sheng and Li Xue.

· 2016: Yago, un amor y una venganza. Mexican soap opera starring Iván Sánchez and an adaptation of Ezel.

· 2016: Entre tu amor y mi amor, venezuelan soap opera wirtten by Carlos Pérez,

· 2016: Goodbye Mr. Black or 굿바이 미스터 블랙 is a South Korean television series based on the manhwa of the same title.

· 2017: Venganza, a Colombian telenovela based on the television series of Mike Kelley titled Revenge.

· 2018: The Count of Monte-Cristo: Great Revenge or モンテ・クリスト伯 ―華麗なる復讐, directed by Mai Takano and Yusuke Noda

· 2018: La reina del flow, starring Carolina Ramírez.

· 2018: Wes, a Sri Lankan-Sinhala television series.

· 2019: Vlad, starring Adrian Nartea.

· 2021: Miss Monte-Cristo or 미스 몬테크리스토 South Korean television series starring Lee So-yeon.

· 2023: El Conde: Amor y honor, upcoming Mexican-American soap opera based on the novel.

· 2002: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Kevin Reynolds.

 

[Runner77]

What are those 8 movies? I don't see the list.

They’re listed by the thread starter one by one, in separate replies to the opening tweet.

 

[the valiant effort]

They’re listed by the thread starter one by one, in separate replies to the opening tweet.

Emong stopped allowing us non-Twitterers to view tweet replies and threads a long time ago, so all we see is that original tweet

 

[OldCraig71]

My son took me to Gladiator II IMAX this afternoon.

Decent sequel, Denzel seemed a little miscast, IMHO.

I haven't seen it but the clips I have watched make me agree.

 

[LV426]

Looking forward to the 1922 remake of Nosferatu on Xmas day. Yup, that's right a horror movie opening on Christmas day.

 

[Redux91]

F the hyperbolic claims of this tweet, there are some good movies listed. How many have you seen from these and liked?

1 - Margin Call , haven't seen it

2 - Too big too fail, seen it, dramatization, gives you an idea how we botched it when it comes to corps

3 - Enron: smartest guys in the room , seen it, documentary, ..absolutely crazy what these guys were doing.. it's like wolf of wall street a bit except NOT FUNNY AT ALL

4 - Inside Job , seen it, documentary , one of the great docu's I've EVER seen, narrated by Matt Damon, explains TOP to Bottom just what the hell exactly happened to create the 2008 recession and housing bubble crisis, out of this world stuff

5 - Inside Job, haven't seen it, I would guess it's a dramatization of the docu

6 - The ascent of money , haven't seen it

7 - The Corporation , seen it, documentary, basically just explains how Corps came to be..and how they develop strangleholds..

8 - The big short , seen it, dramatization starring Steve Carell, Brad Pitt and Christian bale, but really, it's Ryan Gosling who steals the show
Also explains the 2008 recession/housing bubble crisis
But Inside Job does a better job I find

I'd also recommend
The Money Masters (1996) with Noam Chomsky
Basically discusses the concepts of money, debt, taxes, and their development from biblical times onward
Also gives a huge truth about something terribly important that happened in 1910ish that allowed banks to be allowed to gamble with your money...
Just awful

 

[overlords]

1 - Margin Call , haven't seen it

2 - Too big too fail, seen it, dramatization, gives you an idea how we botched it when it comes to corps

3 - Enron: smartest guys in the room , seen it, documentary, ..absolutely crazy what these guys were doing.. it's like wolf of wall street a bit except NOT FUNNY AT ALL

4 - Inside Job , seen it, documentary , one of the great docu's I've EVER seen, narrated by Matt Damon, explains TOP to Bottom just what the hell exactly happened to create the 2008 recession and housing bubble crisis, out of this world stuff

5 - Inside Job, haven't seen it, I would guess it's a dramatization of the docu

6 - The ascent of money , haven't seen it

7 - The Corporation , seen it, documentary, basically just explains how Corps came to be..and how they develop strangleholds..

8 - The big short , seen it, dramatization starring Steve Carell, Brad Pitt and Christian bale, but really, it's Ryan Gosling who steals the show
Also explains the 2008 recession/housing bubble crisis
But Inside Job does a better job I find

I'd also recommend
The Money Masters (1996) with Noam Chomsky
Basically discusses the concepts of money, debt, taxes, and their development from biblical times onward
Also gives a huge truth about something terribly important that happened in 1910ish that allowed banks to be allowed to gamble with your money...
Just awful

Enron: Smartest Guys in the Room is an almost yearly re-watch for me. Absolutely bonkers.

 

[Kimota]

I've been interested in adaptations of The Count of Monte Cristo. The most recent hails from France this summer and is apparently now showing at Cinema Guzzo.

Following up on a Reddit thread, I could not believe how many film and series adaptations were produced around the world. I'd love to be able to see as many as possible but am afraid most of these will be difficult to find.

I've seen three US adaptations (1934, 1975, 2002) and a couple from France.

How many of these have you seen and which would you recommend?

Film and TV adaptations of the original story​

· 1908: The Count of Monte Cristo, first known film of the San Diego coast, directed by Francis Boggs.

· 1908: Le Prisonnier du Château d'If, directed by Victorin Jasset.

· 1908: Il conte di Montecristo, directed by Luigi Maggi.

· 1910: The count of monte cristo, produced by Challenger Prod Company.

· 1911: Monte Cristo starred by Stuart Holmes.

· 1912: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Colin Campbell, it was destroyed due to copyright issues.

· 1912: Il Conte di Montecristo, directed by Giuseppe De Liguoro.

· 1913: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Joseph A. Golden and Edwin S. Porter.

· 1915: Die Totenhand des Grafen von Monte Cristo, directed by Hans Otto Löwenstein.

· 1918: Le Comte de Monte Cristo, directed by Henri Pouctal.

· 1921: Der Graf von Monte Cristo, produced by Astoria Film Wien.

· 1922: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Emmett J. Flynn.

· 1929: Le Comte de Monte-Cristo, directed by Henri Fescourt.

· 1934: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Rowland V. Lee.

· 1942: El Conde de Montecristo, directed by Chano Urueta and starred by Arturo de Córdova.

· 1943: Le Comte de Monte Cristo, french-italian film directed by Robert Vernay.

· 1953: El Conde de Montecristo, starred by Jorge Mistral.

· 1954: Le Comte de Monte-Cristo, series directed by Robert Vernay.

· 1956: The Count of Monte Cristo, created by Sidney Marshall.

· 1961: Le Comte de Monte- Cristo, directed by Claude Autant-Lara.

· 1964: The Count of Monte Cristo, BBC television serial starring Alan Badel and Natasha Parry

· 1965: Greven av Monte Christo, directed by Kent Nilssen and Alfred Solaas, starred by Knut Risan.

· 1966: Il conte di Montecristo, directed by Edmo Fenogio.

· 1969: El Conde de Montecristo, spanish film directed by Pedro Amalio López.

· 1973: The Count of Monte Cristo, animated short film by Hanna Barbera.

· 1975: The Count of Monte Cristo , starring Richard Chamberlain, directed by David Greene.

· 1979: Le Comte de Monte-Cristo , directed by Denys de la Patelliére.

· 1984: The Count of Monte Cristo, animated short film by GoodTimes.

· 1988: The Prisoner of Castle If, Soviet miniseries starring Viktor Avilov and Aleksei Petrenko.

· 1991: Story Time Collection: The Count of Monte Cristo, animated short film starring David Baldwin.

· 1997: The Count of Monte Cristo, animation byBlye Migicovsky Productions and Phoenix Animation Studios.

· 1998: The Count of Monte Cristo , television serial starring Gérard Depardieu.

· 2002: The Count of Monte Cristo, directed by Kevin Reynolds.

· 2002: El Conde de Montecristo, cuban TV series directed by Rafael Acosta and Noemí Cartaya.

Loosely based films​

· 1917: A Modern Monte Cristo, directed by Eugene Moore.

· 1929: Der Monte Christo von Prag, directed by Hans Otto.

· 1948: The Secret of Monte Cristo, directed by Albert Valentin.The film is based on the purported real story behind the novel.

· 1950: The Prince of Revenge, Egyptian movie, directed by Henry Barkat.

· 1951: María Montecristo, directed by Luis César Amadori.

· 1954: El Vizconde de Montecristo by Gilberto Martínez starring Tin Tan.

· 1954: Karkottai, a 1954 Indian Tamil-language film produced and directed by Kemparaj Urs.

· 1958: Vanjikkottai Valiban or Raj Tilak, Karkottai adaptation .

· 1964: The Crafty One (أمير الدهاء), Egyptian film directed by Henry Barakat, starring Farid Shawqi.

· 1967: Lunghi giorni della vendetta, Western film directed by Florestano Vancini.

· 1968: Amgolwang, directed by In-hyeon Choi.

· 1968: Sous le signe de Monte Cristo, directed by André Hunebelle.

· 1976: The Circle of Revenge (دائرة الانتقام), Egyptian film directed by Samir Seif, starring Nour El-Sherif.

· 1977: The Great Vendetta, starring Adam Cheng.

· 1977: Bhuierantlo Munis is a 1977 Indian Konkani-language drama film.

· 1982: Padayottam is a 1982 Indian Malayalam-language epic period drama film directed by Jijo Punnoose.

· 1986: Veta is a 1986 Indian Telugu-language period action film starring Chiranjeevi, Jaya Prada and Sumalatha

· 1986: Legacy of Rage, a Cantonese-language Hong Kong film adaptation, starring Brandon Lee.

· 1986: Asipatha Mamai, a Sinhala film adaptation.

· 1999: Forever Mine Film starring Joseph Fiennes, Ray Liotta and Gretchen Mol.

· 2003: Oldboy, directed by Chan-Wook.

Loosely based series​

· 1956: The Count of Monte Cristo (TV series), TV series based on further adventures of Edmond Dantes after the end of the novel

· 1971: Le Comte de Monte-Cristo (Les Cent Livres), réalisé par Claude Santelli et Michel Favart.

· 1974: La indomable, venezuelan soap opera for canal RCTV.

· 1977: La venganza , directed by Valentín Pimstein.

· 1979: Nihon Gankutsuou [ja] (日本巌窟王), Japanese television serial set in Edo period, starring Masao Kusakari

· 1984: Marimar, mexican soap opera directed by Verónica Pimstein.

· 1984: Los títeres, chilean soap opera created by Sergio Vodanović.

· 1984: La dueña, venezuelan soap opera directed by José Ignacio Cabrujas and Julio César Mármol.

· 1986: La dama de rosa, venezuelan soap opera starring Jeannette Rodríguez and Carlos Mata.

· 1990: Yo compro esa mujer, created by Olga Ruilópez.

· 1996: Ithihaas made by Balaji productions for doordarshan channel in India.

· 1997: Cambio de piel, directed by José Ignacio Cabrujas.

· 2004: Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo, Japanese animation adaptation. Produced by Gonzo, directed by Mahiro Maeda

· 2004: Amarte es mi pecado mexican soap opera produced by Ernesto Alonso.

· 2005: La madrastra, mexican soap opera by Salvador Mejía.

· 2006: Vingança (telenovela), directed by Rodrigo Riccó and Paulo Rosa, SIC Portugal

· 2006: Montecristo: Un Amor, Una Venganza(Argentine telenovela), starring Pablo Echarri and Paola Krum

· 2006: Dueña y señora , puertorrican soap opera produced by Cordial International Inc.

· 2006: Montecristo: El Amor Nunca Muere, Mexican soap opera starring Silvia Navarro and Diego Olivera

· 2008: Montecristo, colombian soap opera starring Juan Carlos Vargas

· 2010: Ezel (TV series), a Turkish television series billed as an adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo.

· 2011: Revenge (2011 TV series), a television series billed as an adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo.

· 2011: Un amore e una vendetta is an Italian television series based on the argentine telenovela Montecristo: Un Amor, una Venganza

· 2012: Avenida Brasil, brazilian soap opera produced by Rede Globo.

· 2012: Antsanoty, an Armenia-Armenian television series.

· 2013: İntikam is the Turkish version of the ABC TV series Revenge.

· 2013: Flor del Caribe, brazilian soap opera produced by Rede Globo.

· 2013: La Patrona, directed by Valentina Párraga.

· 2014: Sin Identidad, starring Megan Montaner.

· 2015: Nirvana in Fire (Chinese: 琅琊榜) directed by Kong Sheng and Li Xue.

· 2016: Yago, un amor y una venganza. Mexican soap opera starring Iván Sánchez and an adaptation of Ezel.

· 2016: Entre tu amor y mi amor, venezuelan soap opera wirtten by Carlos Pérez,

· 2016: Goodbye Mr. Black or 굿바이 미스터 블랙 is a South Korean television series based on the manhwa of the same title.

· 2017: Venganza, a Colombian telenovela based on the television series of Mike Kelley titled Revenge.

· 2018: The Count of Monte-Cristo: Great Revenge or モンテ・クリスト伯 ―華麗なる復讐, directed by Mai Takano and Yusuke Noda

· 2018: La reina del flow, starring Carolina Ramírez.

· 2018: Wes, a Sri Lankan-Sinhala television series.

· 2019: Vlad, starring Adrian Nartea.

· 2021: Miss Monte-Cristo or 미스 몬테크리스토 South Korean television series starring Lee So-yeon.

· 2023: El Conde: Amor y honor, upcoming Mexican-American soap opera based on the novel.

I always loved this concept. The ultimate revenge fantasy.

I have seen the Jim Caviezel version as well along with the Chamberlan too. And the other version I have seen is one with Gerard Depardieu on TV-5, it's a big budget mini-series from France. This one is my favorite. Great dialogue, writing, cinematography. It helps a lot that it was a mini-series so they had the time to develop the relationships, etc...I intend to see the latest French version as well.

I would love to see if there are other versions from France and GB.