Steven Toast
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Incredible accomplishment for Draisaitl. Easily one of the most underrated players in the game today.
The guy is an absolute production machine- he’s under appreciated for a combination of reasons:he’s not North American, he doesn’t play in a major market, has McDavid soaking up the spotlight, and his play style isn’t as thrilling as McDavid, Mackinnon etc but it’s so effective and efficient.
No other play broke 70 points and he’s sitting with 84. If it wasn’t for McDavid, he would have won back the Art Ross with a sizable lead in a shortened season.
How many people expected Draisaitl to repeat his “career year” from last year? Well he just did.
He was better than McDavid last year. Granted that was McDavid on one leg, but still.
It's actually minimum 50 points: NHL Records
So Crosby's 12/13 season would qualify.
FUN FACT: Crosby has the best assist season outside of Wayne and Mario in NHL history save for Oates serving up a peak Brett Hull in 90/91.
is looking at that list I think:Which season would that be? He's never had more assists than 3rd place in points.
I didn't think it was"the best" but even at the time I thought it was good.Best contract in NHL who thought that when signed can't say I did.
If anything Jari Kurri on that list is the cautionary tale of what could happen to Draisaitl. Kurri made #50 on THN's all-time list in 1998 and that's right about where he usually ends up on those lists. Crosby needed about one 100 point season to jump Kurri in the public imagination. Kurri's reputation will forever suffer from having been Gretzky's sidekick, and I'm afraid Draisaitl will have to move teams (or have McDavid move teams) to avoid that fate.
A full season is whatever the schedule says it is. Not playing a full season due to injury, based on the accepted number of games for the full season is something else entirelyOne would think that, if you're going to take a thinly-veiled shot at the guy (let's not pretend that's not what this is), you may want to get your facts straight. This isn't a full season and Crosby had over 1.5PPG three years straight.
Not play for the Oilers is pretty much the only criteriaI'm really not sure what Drai has to do to get the respect of the HF posters!
Top 5 or six?Right, and McDavid on two legs demonstrated the gap between he and the rest of the league. Draisaitl is a fine player though. Certainly one of the top five or six forwards in the league.
I wouldn't consider 56 games full season either
I'm not sure was easily worth 8 plus at the time of signing but hell yes he's been worth every penny and then some dollars since !! It was a gamble for a player that wasn't even PPG at the time but he did just have a coming-out playoff right before signing. A gamble that the Oilers won though quite easily.I didn't think it was"the best" but even at the time I thought it was good.
He was a center that put up 70+ points. That's very easily worth 8.5 mil
Greatest German ever... Although I'm very high on Seider.The real question with Leon.. is where he ends up in the all time greatest forwards not born in North America by the time he hits retirement.
Insane talent
One is clearly unlike the others: Jagr is far higher than the rest mentioned on any alltime list. Having said that, Draisaitl's 2019-20 season is already more successful than what Bure, Kurri or Sundin ever produced. Then of course you add players like Ovechkin, Selänne, Fedorov and Forsberg into the mix.Greatest German ever... Although I'm very high on Seider.
I'd say damn near jagr, Bure, sundin and fedorov. Forgot a Finn... Kurri
Acquire the US or Canadian citizenship.I'm really not sure what Drai has to do to get the respect of the HF posters!
Acquire the US or Canadian citizenship.
HF posters, can’t downgrade McDavid anymore, gotta go after Drai.I don't think that it. I think a lot of posters think of him as a sidekick to McDavid.
Didnt know that Lindros and Coffey is kn this club.With his final assist of the season, Draisaitl joins this elite club.
The only other players who habe accomplished this in the last 40 years are Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Kurri, Yzerman, Coffey, Lindros an McDavid. So only the absolute elite of peak scorers could do it.
So, no Crosby, no Messier, no Forsberg, no Malkin, no Thornton, no Ovechkin, no Sakic, no Selanne, no Kucherov and so on.
Not bad for a guy who was declared a bum by the vast majority of this board a few years back.
With his final assist of the season, Draisaitl joins this elite club.
The only other players who habe accomplished this in the last 40 years are Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Kurri, Yzerman, Coffey, Lindros an McDavid. So only the absolute elite of peak scorers could do it.
So, no Crosby, no Messier, no Forsberg, no Malkin, no Thornton, no Ovechkin, no Sakic, no Selanne, no Kucherov and so on.
- Marcel Dionne: 4 (79-82)
- Charlie Simmer: 2 (80-81)
- Mike Bossy: 2 (81-82)
- Peter Stastny: 2 (82-83)
- Mike Bossy: 3 (84-86)
- Pat LaFontaine: 2 (92-93)
- Kevin Stevens: 2 (92-93)
He didn’t miss a game this season, so technically both were “full years”. Crosby only played 99 out of 246 possible games those 3 years you’re referencing, it’s pretty different scenario, as well as much shorter sample sizes.
Health is one of Draisaitls best qualities- only 4 missed games in the past 5 seasons.
Even if Crosby fans are desperade enough to include 41 games and 36 games seasons that still does not qualify him, as these seasons did not happen back to back. I am sorry. I know it hurts, but you will get over it.