League Leading Wild 26th in PK %
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JiricekSaveUs
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They’ve changed their ok like 10 times the last 2 years and nothing has worked. At the end of the day it’s execution. Look at the goal last night. Trenyin just standing right next to bogosian rather than getting up to the point to front the shot.
I think it’s time for the Trenin experiment to be over. Waive him and then send him down. He’s f***ing terrible and completely useless. Any player in the ahl can provide whatever it is that he does
Spurgeon
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Only thing that concerns me about this team in the playoffs is how historically terrible they’ve been at the PK. Small sample size, but special teams has been the main factor in a lot of their series losses.
Dr Jan Itor
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I think this, but only intermittently, so as not to be predictable.
Nothing has changed based on what I can see. They are not as aggressive as they were when they were flat awful but still not acceptable.
They have a fundamental issue that hasn’t changed throughout several coaching staffs. Once the play goes up top, the two forwards stay in the lane to the net and leave the triggers on either side with too much space and time. That distributor up top can then wait until they fill the lane and move the puck to either trigger. From there, everything breaks down.
Forward that was filling the lane, plays a trail position causing back pressure on the trigger, taking away the QB up top and the bumper in theory. The defenseman needs to dive up to the trigger hopefully taking away the shot and the net front player. Other defender sags down to take the net front player as well. That’s how it is supposed to happen in theory based on what I can see.
The issue is that generally the triggers on each team are some of the best players in the league and not who you want to give open looks to. They are elite shooters and creators and you’re asking for trouble with the collapsing to take away options and attempting to block the shot. It also creates a ton of movement and scrambling which leads to players being out of position.
Quick work sketch of what opposing teams work the Wild into, their options, and the movement from the Wild players that have to happen. Once the PK is in this position, it seems like a goal is mostly assured over the last several years.
They have a fundamental issue that hasn’t changed throughout several coaching staffs. Once the play goes up top, the two forwards stay in the lane to the net and leave the triggers on either side with too much space and time. That distributor up top can then wait until they fill the lane and move the puck to either trigger. From there, everything breaks down.
Forward that was filling the lane, plays a trail position causing back pressure on the trigger, taking away the QB up top and the bumper in theory. The defenseman needs to dive up to the trigger hopefully taking away the shot and the net front player. Other defender sags down to take the net front player as well. That’s how it is supposed to happen in theory based on what I can see.
The issue is that generally the triggers on each team are some of the best players in the league and not who you want to give open looks to. They are elite shooters and creators and you’re asking for trouble with the collapsing to take away options and attempting to block the shot. It also creates a ton of movement and scrambling which leads to players being out of position.
Quick work sketch of what opposing teams work the Wild into, their options, and the movement from the Wild players that have to happen. Once the PK is in this position, it seems like a goal is mostly assured over the last several years.
Wasted Talent
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I doubt Guerin is involved in how they run the PK.
Trenin was pitched as a PK specialist, so it's likely he at least tried to address the problem.
TaLoN
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Every single version is a very passive, stay back from the puck carrier and only try to defend the lanes.
The most successful PKs tend to be the ones that challenge the puck carriers directly.
Lies.
The coach that has the team in 1st place in the league? Pretty sure everyone else is hired by the head coach. Could be wrong though.
Minnewildsota
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You’re correct. Usually the GM hires the head coach. The head coach then fills out his support cast with assistant coaches he wants.
Not directed at you but was there an interview or an article with Guerin where he stated that the PK is fine? I don’t seem to recall seeing that but I may have missed it.
63firebird
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It sure looks like the Wild are committed to passive PK. But is it because they lack the skating/speed to attack the points and take away time and space? Foligno is on PK sometimes I think, does he really have the wheels to challenge the points?
63firebird
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Some teams in playoffs seem to play responsible defence and wait for a call and then pour it on. Great special teams seem essential. 26% isn't going to do it.
PK and PP are way below what's needed to go deep in the POs. They BOTH have been for YEARS and several coaches. Just like the wild get routinely outshot since their inception regardless of the coach.
TaLoN
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The PK% is 73.3% which is ranked 26th in the league. It's not 26%, which would be historically bad. The worst pk% in the league is the Islanders at 66.7%
63firebird
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DANOZ28
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i would say you need speedy players to aggressively pressure on PK. that has NOT been a BG focus.
I'm to the point where trying to not take penalties is the only strategy.
BagHead
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They only got one minor yesterday, Freddy decided to grab a puck mid-air in front of Wall.
6 seconds later, BOOOM
Dr Jan Itor
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Other coaches: I want as many shots in the first ten seconds as possible, don't think just shoot.
