Post-Game Talk: Leafs win 3-2 against Utah

[1specter]

Not trying to defend Dubas here, but Stolarz is literally the only goalie in the Leafs pipeline not drafted or signed by Dubas

Actually I think Woll might have been Lou

Woll was Mark Hunter/Lou, and Freddy Andersen was Lou. Dubas was Mrazek, Campbell, Kallgren, Murray and Samsonov lol. Also decided to promote Sparks and give him McElhinney's spot.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Sorry, but Dubas goalie carousel here is a complete comedy of error that Treliving seems to have figured out very quickly.

Dubas deserves no credit for anything related to our current goaltending. His handling of Jarry in Pittsburgh just further reiterates the guy has no clue.

Tonight’s game was easily one that previous iterations of this team would throw away.

Even with a bunch of Marlies this team showed up.

Doesn’t have to be pretty. The work ethic is speaking for itself.

November 2022 we were running a defense that looked like

Sandin-Liljegren
Giordano-Holl
Benn/Hollowell/Mete

With Murray and Kallgren as the only healthy goalies, iirc Murray got injured and Kallgren was the starter at one point. We went 11-2-2 averaging 2 GAA through that stretch.

Our goalies were shit and it’s starting to look better, not going to argue there, but there’s been a lot of stretches where we got destroyed by injuries and the team showed up with a month of professional defense first hard work only to revert back to old tendencies once healthy. I might be misremembering but I’m pretty sure there as an almost identical one the year before that as well where they locked it down for a month while we had 4 or 5 injuries and then forgot how to do that once we got healthy.

 

[LeafSteel]

November 2022 we were running a defense that looked like

Sandin-Liljegren
Giordano-Holl
Benn/Hollowell/Mete

With Murray and Kallgren as the only healthy goalies, iirc Murray got injured and Kallgren was the starter at one point. We went 11-2-2 averaging 2 GAA through that stretch.

Our goalies were shit and it’s starting to look better, not going to argue there, but there’s been a lot of stretches where we got destroyed by injuries and the team showed up with a month of professional defense first hard work only to revert back to old tendencies once healthy. I might be misremembering but I’m pretty sure there as an almost identical one the year before that as well where they locked it down for a month while we had 4 or 5 injuries and then forgot how to do that once we got healthy.

Not giving Dubas any passes.

He brought in an injury plagued goalie in Murray that he should have avoided, or at least gotten for pennies.

As pitiful as that defence looks, that was pretty much what Dubas saw fit on defence for us. Who is it missing? Rielly and Brodie?

Guy gave no emphasis goalie or defence and got showed it over and over again. Instead of learning and doing something about it, he just kept doubling down on the core 4 and path of least resistance roster moves and soft losers like Holl and Kerfoot.

It honestly felt like when the decision was made to bring in guys like McCabe, Schenn, O’Reilly, and Acciari, Dubas was pushed aside and Shanahan mandated those moves.

Anyways, good riddance to that goof, as well as Keefe.

Glad we have Berube, and a team properly built from the net out and playing good, hard to play against hockey.

Still been hurt too many times by this team in the playoffs but these guys just slap different now then any previous iteration of this Core 4 team.

Hopefully we see this in the playoffs. Adding strength at 3C and let’s see what we roll into the playoffs like.

 

[Antropovsky]

While playing with Marner again…

Let’s hope we don’t see Matthews and Marner back together when Matthews returns.

Tavares has been great with every 5v5 line he's been on.

In fact Tavares averages only 7 shots per 60 with Marner. He averages 11.76 shots per 60 with Nylander.

Tavares averaged 1.61 xg/60 with Nylander but just 0.54 xg/60 with Marner.

Additionally, Tavares averaged 7.69/per60 high danger chances for with Nylander and only 2.6/per 60 high danger chances for with Marner.

So Tavares appears less dangerous offensively 5v5 with Marner. Maybe an argument could be made that Marner and Tavares are better defensively?

 

[Martin Skoula]

Not giving Dubas any passes.

He brought in an injury plagued goalie in Murray that he should have avoided, or at least gotten for pennies.

As pitiful as that defence looks, that was pretty much what Dubas saw fit on defence for us. Who is it missing? Rielly and Brodie?

Guy gave no emphasis goalie or defence and got showed it over and over again. Instead of learning and doing something about it, he just kept doubling down on the core 4 and path of least resistance roster moves and soft losers like Holl and Kerfoot.

It honestly felt like when the decision was made to bring in guys like McCabe, Schenn, O’Reilly, and Acciari, Dubas was pushed aside and Shanahan mandated those moves.

Anyways, good riddance to that goof, as well as Keefe.

Glad we have Berube, and a team properly built from the net out and playing good, hard to play against hockey.

Still been hurt too many times by this team in the playoffs but these guys just slap different now then any previous iteration of this Core 4 team.

Hopefully we see this in the playoffs. Adding strength at 3C and let’s see what we roll into the playoffs like.

Who’s giving anyone a pass? We’ve seen this mirage in November multiple times before, a worse coach with worse goalies and a significantly worse defense managed to pull off a similar or better stretch defensively. It’s too early to give a team of losers credit for turning a new leaf and saying this was a game we wouldn’t have won in years past when we objectively did multiple years while missing Rielly Muzzin Brodie and both starting goalies. I’ll believe it when I see them locking down fully healthy in April and May. As it stands neither of our goalies has started even half a season and our next man up on D is a guy with no kneecaps and whatever the hell Benning is after his surgeries.

 

[meefer]

I don't remember exactly the date but there was an article written where Berube was asking forwards to work the puck to the points if there isn't a clear high quality chance for point shots

Kadri was pretty good at it and made a living and a solid contract feeding pucks to Makar

I think we have OEL who can really wire the puck, and may be Timmins. Rielly needs Christopher Nolan type inception to just shoot the effing PUCK ffs

Do you mean the Rielly that leads the team in shots (41-39 OEL), shooting percentage (9.8-6.7 Timmins) and goals (4-1 OEL and Timmins), and every other Dman on the team? That Rielly? The one who has more goals than all the other defensemen combined. Ok.

I do agree that our D could shoot more. After OEL's 39, it's McCabe with 19, and then Timmins with 15. More production from the back end would certainly help the cause.

Fun fact #1: our 7-2-1 L10 is the best in the league, damn.
Fun fact #2: there's a new #1 GAA in the league, Mr J. Woll, come on down. 2.00*
Fun fact #3: the leagues' #1 SV%...Mr A. Stolarz, come on down. .927%*
(* played 7 or more games).

 

[mobilus]

Willie “Tarp off” Nylander cracks me up. Being interviewed shirtless in the hallway with brother Alex after the game. The guy just loves flashing the flesh.

I think he's advertising for a wife.

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

They call him Brick Woll for a reason.

I'm honestly shocked he didn't tear his groin/knee/whatever after making that save.

 

[arso40]

I'm honestly shocked he didn't tear his groin/knee/whatever after making that save.

Don’t speak too soon

 

[Puckstuff]

Only losing one game without Matthews is wild. If only the team knew how to step up like this when it mattered. Berube is the only hope left.

Not to be a broken record because I’ve said it multiple times, but this team needs to play Willy, Marner, and Matthews on separate lines. Nylander and Marner have played better away from Matthews recently while driving their own line. Matthews and Domi who have struggled to start the year can make up 2/3 of a line when they’re back and they have chemistry. Just keep everything the exact same and put Knies-Matthews-Domi as a line when they’re back.

 

[arso40]

Not to be a broken record because I’ve said it multiple times, but this team needs to play Willy, Marner, and Matthews on separate lines. Nylander and Marner have played better away from Matthews recently while driving their own line. Matthews and Domi who have struggled to start the year can make up 2/3 of a line when they’re back and they have chemistry. Just keep everything the exact same and put Knies-Matthews-Domi as a line when they’re back.

I wouldn’t say Nylander plays better away from Matthews he’s just used to playing away from Matthews but I agree three lines with one of them on it is the cheat code I can however Dee chief putting Willy on Matthews line with Knies if domi isn’t playing on Wednesday with the two Matthews in the line up

 

[Strangle]

Another win. I mean. The resilience is pretty amazing. With Matthews out and all the other injuries... that's what... 7-1 now.

We'll probably see a dip soon. It's a lot on the big guns with many regulars out but the defence and goalies have been outstanding.

Beating the Florida teams would be huge. Good thing is they still have time to rest up most the week.

Then it gets busy afterwards again.

Good on everyone to keep it together and keep it going.

Wednesday at the Panthers. Be nice to get that one.

Go Leafs Go

I’d say less than Matthews having an effect is that it’s just November.

Pretty used to these November runs