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Muzzin with Liljegren. Sandin with Holl. Love this by Keefe, but he needs to stick with it. Can't change it after a bad shift or two.
Doesn't this prove the rotation on defence is done? Dermott is the 7th D.
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Muzzin with Liljegren. Sandin with Holl. Love this by Keefe, but he needs to stick with it. Can't change it after a bad shift or two.
Doesn't this prove the rotation on defence is done? Dermott is the 7th D.
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Dermott has to be on his way out. Feel bad for the kid - he just hasn't grown his game enough year over year.
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Seems like a great kid but he just hasn't progressed enough. Where ever he goes I wish him success. It's not for effort.
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I wouldn't let him go. We need depth in case of injuries. He's the only legitimate NHL caliber defenceman we have beyond the top 6.
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I'd imagine if he goes out, a different defenceman comes in. Maybe someone with more of a playoff style of play.
He just needs to better, he's a really likable guy but you need results in the NHL. That pass up the middle he made last playoffs wasn't just a 1 time thing, he routinely makes bad decisions. I think he still has tons of room to grow and become a legitimate top 4 player, just not sure we can wait long enough for him to figure it out. The raw skills are there just doesn't make the best decisions under pressure.
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Winning this game would be awesome as coming out of the AS break, the Canes, Pens and Blues were circled as upcoming big measuring stick test. 2/2 already, 3/3 would be amazing.
I also looked ahead at the next 20 games after tonight. Fairly butter soft. Some tough games vs. Florida, Washington, Minnesota, Carolina and Boston. Could also lump in the Preds and Stars, but otherwise it is really, really soft. Could be quite the run, and let's be honest, 30-8-2 since the poor start is already quite the incredible run, so it would just be a continuation of what we are already seeing.
I also looked ahead at the next 20 games after tonight. Fairly butter soft. Some tough games vs. Florida, Washington, Minnesota, Carolina and Boston. Could also lump in the Preds and Stars, but otherwise it is really, really soft. Could be quite the run, and let's be honest, 30-8-2 since the poor start is already quite the incredible run, so it would just be a continuation of what we are already seeing.
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Glad they’ve finally realized Holl is much better suited to the bottom pair. He’s seems to be playing his way off the team.
Lilly in the top 4 has been tried a couple and it hasn't been good, but to be fair the last time I remember it tried Sandin was his defense partner who is also a rookie, tonight he has Muzzin let's see if it goes better with a veteran beside him.
liljegren has played a handful of games with Muzzin at this point and only 1 or 2 were problematic imo and in the case of 1 of those it was really just the first period and he was solid thereafter.
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Trying a bunch of guys in that spot. Ultimately I think we trade for a top 4 dman.
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I think he’ll be fine with Muzzin. Certainly beats the alternative
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I like this for playoffs. Liljegren/Holl rotating in that 3LD spot. Need someone relatively solid/tough in that 2LD spot.
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Muzzins contract has become another luxury on a team that has a lot of luxury
I'd give Liljegren a fair shot as I think Sandin/Holl looks good and Liljegren has the ability to be a very solid shutdown D with a really good transition game.
The cost to acquire a better top 4 than Liljegren will be a lot I'd think.
This basically gives us 3 pairings that have some offensive ability or at least can transition the puck well and are also defensively responsible.
Do the Sabres always play the Canadian anthem, I hate them a little less now.
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Over his last 14 games Liljegren has scored at a 47 point pace without powerplay time and is one of the best defensemen on the team analytically. He's not coming out of the line-up.
they need to break up that second line, they have been dogshit for too long .. dont care what it is , throw all bottom 9 guys bottom guys in a blender and see what sticks.
From what I heard yes, since a lot of their fans are from St.Catherines/Niagara area
It must be so, the U S is open but their arena is less than half full. I guess there are still border issues.
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I can't wait until Lily puts all this talk to rest. I think he will be great with Muzzin, and help him revive his game.
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