Post-Game Talk: Leafs tie Season Series with Senators

[seventieslord]

Unrelated note, I looked at Travis Green's game log as a player and saw that he came back to the Leafs in '06-'07 in his final NHL season as a waiver pickup (got waived by the Ducks who won the Cup that year, ouch), I have no recollection of that at all despite watching almost every game. He was pretty washed by that point it looks like though, he put up 0 points in 24 games, then played in Switzerland the year after before calling it a career.

He had a strange career in general, a first round pick who was meant to be a scoring forward and put up a PPG season in '96, followed by 64 pts in 79 games the year after, then pretty much never came close to that level of production ever again. I mainly just remember his OT goal against Philly to keep the Leafs alive.

He was a solid and useful player for nearly his entire career. Had a couple flashes of offensive production, mainly thanks to Palffy.

 

[willmma]

Sens always dirty

 

[notDatsyuk]

Haha

Why not mention hockey? Oh, yeah - the only team that ever came back from down 3-0 in the Cup finals was Toronto.

 

[fahad203]

Really missing Engvall and

Unrelated note, I looked at Travis Green's game log as a player and saw that he came back to the Leafs in '06-'07 in his final NHL season as a waiver pickup (got waived by the Ducks who won the Cup that year, ouch), I have no recollection of that at all despite watching almost every game. He was pretty washed by that point it looks like though, he put up 0 points in 24 games, then played in Switzerland the year after before calling it a career.

He had a strange career in general, a first round pick who was meant to be a scoring forward and put up a PPG season in '96, followed by 64 pts in 79 games the year after, then pretty much never came close to that level of production ever again. I mainly just remember his OT goal against Philly to keep the Leafs alive.

There were some weird comebacks by former leafs to close out their career.

Curtis Joseph came back in 08
Yanic Perrault came back same year 06

I personally don't remember his tenure in 06. Which is also weird because I watched most games

 

[Clark4Ever]

Benoit in the post game presser was classic...

Reporter: Is this the biggest goal of your career?

Benoit: I don't score any goals so I think so...

 

[1specter]

Really missing Engvall and


There were some weird comebacks by former leafs to close out their career.

Curtis Joseph came back in 08
Yanic Perrault came back same year 06

I personally don't remember his tenure in 06. Which is also weird because I watched most games

Perreault I remember, we overpaid for him lol. My one key memory of him is helping us win a shootout late in the season with a fake slapper when we were desperately trying to make the playoffs. That and being money on the draw. CuJo had a cool moment where he came in relief of Toskala against Washington and then robbed Ovi and co. in OT before winning the game in a shootout.

 

[fahad203]

Perreault I remember, we overpaid for him lol. My one key memory of him is helping us win a shootout late in the season with a fake slapper when we were desperately trying to make the playoffs. That and being money on the draw. CuJo had a cool moment where he came in relief of Toskala against Washington and then robbed Ovi and co. in OT before winning the game in a shootout.

That Perrault pick became Roman Jusi. Because you know. Leafs luck

Clifford Fletcher had some weird moments

 

[Rare Jewel]

Has anyone thought about what may happen if there's an empty net in game 4 and someone gets a free look at it?

Any chance leafs finish off the series with a clapper into the open cage? Think the Sens do it to throw leafs off their game for game 5?

The only guy who would try that is Domi, and he likely won't be out there for a 6v5 in the last few minutes anyway.

But really, just put it in and be classy. (that's what she said)

 

[fahad203]

The only guy who would try that is Domi, and he likely won't be out there for a 6v5 in the last few minutes anyway.

But really, just put it in and be classy. (that's what she said)

I can see Laughton doing it. He already fought Greig earlier

 

[rumman]

Simon 'Cale Makar' Benoit

and to think some here wanted to keep Timmins over Benny.........

 

[notDatsyuk]

Green said to warm up the goalie, and Stolarz was the only one who qualified?

 

[Warden of the North]

IMO the Sens have out played the Leafs in 7 of the 9 periods, to your point we simply have more individual talent. maybe out played are the the wrong words, carried the play is a better phrase.

Technically there has been 11 periods, two of which the Leafs ended with exclamation points.

Aside from that, the Leafs have an expected-goals-for of like 61% when the score is tied or one goal difference. The Sens are doing a whole lot of skating around and taking shots from the perimeter but not actually accomplishing much. Our D and centre ice men are suffocating their chances.

 

[Gallagbi]

Technically there has been 11 periods, two of which the Leafs ended with exclamation points.

Aside from that, the Leafs have an expected-goals-for of like 61% when the score is tied or one goal difference. The Sens are doing a whole lot of skating around and taking shots from the perimeter but not actually accomplishing much. Our D and centre ice men are suffocating their chances.

It's been a weird series. Pretty even overall, I do think we deserve to be up, but we've had a lot of time with the Lead and that's changed how we played which negatively impacts the optics.

Stolarz has been above average, Ullmark hasn't. We've had a few bounces in close games (two Sens scored on their own net in back to back OT games), Sens haven't. Our PP has been great and that also aways some of the flow. You're scoring 10 seconds into the PP you won't generate a ton for chances because the PP is over

 

[1specter]

That Perrault pick became Roman Jusi. Because you know. Leafs luck

Clifford Fletcher had some weird moments

f***ing classic lol. That one was JFJ btw, not Fletcher.

 

[1specter]

Technically there has been 11 periods, two of which the Leafs ended with exclamation points.

Aside from that, the Leafs have an expected-goals-for of like 61% when the score is tied or one goal difference. The Sens are doing a whole lot of skating around and taking shots from the perimeter but not actually accomplishing much. Our D and centre ice men are suffocating their chances.

Ottawa also sucks at boxing guys out and protecting their crease. Knies, Matthews and others have been able to camp out there without much pushback. Their D is soft.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

and to think some here wanted to keep Timmins over Benny.........

Some = Kyle Dubas fanboys/bots

 

[Tak7]

Lost in the hype - that was Stolarz first playoff start on the road.

Was intrigued to see how he'd respond after giving up the Tkachuk muffin - the first real time he's faced adversity in this series.

The very next shift after the goal he robs Batherson right down the barrel and just gets on with it - incredible to watch the Leafs having the dialed in goaltender in the playoffs for a change.

 

[1specter]

Lost in the hype - that was Stolarz first playoff start on the road.

Was intrigued to see how he'd respond after giving up the Tkachuk muffin - the first real time he's faced adversity in this series.

The very next shift after the goal he robs Batherson right down the barrel and just gets on with it - incredible to watch the Leafs having the dialed in goaltender in the playoffs for a change.

Stolarz in general seems to bounce back really well after a bad goal or bad game. Comes across as very calm and mentally solid.

Even in game 2, he allows the first Ottawa shot in the third, though that one was a crazy deflection and not on him, but even then he made plenty of ten bell saves to end the period (particularly the one on Cozens) before they ended it early in OT.

 

[Roo]

Simon Benoit is the new Cory Cross.

 

[Sypher04]

It's been a weird series. Pretty even overall, I do think we deserve to be up, but we've had a lot of time with the Lead and that's changed how we played which negatively impacts the optics.

Stolarz has been above average, Ullmark hasn't. We've had a few bounces in close games (two Sens scored on their own net in back to back OT games), Sens haven't. Our PP has been great and that also aways some of the flow. You're scoring 10 seconds into the PP you won't generate a ton for chances because the PP is over

Disagree on the bolded.
When a player takes an open shot through bodies and it happens to hit the opposition on the way to the net that’s not what we typically classify as an own goal. It’s just a shot through traffic.

Also, Tkachuk’s 1st goal was a very lucky bounce, with his centering pass going off Carlo and into the net.

 

[1specter]

Disagree on this.
When a player takes an open shot through bodies and it happens to hit the opposition on the way to the net that’s not what we typically classify as an own goal. It’s just a shot through traffic.

Also, Tkachuk’s 1st goal was a very lucky bounce, with his centering pass going off Carlo and into the net.

Yeah, I don't love the whole 'they got a few bounces' narrative, it really reminds me of when the Leafs would always be on the wrong end of these games and we'd try to find any copium we could. Yes, hockey is a random game with a lot of crazy bounces here and there, but the Leafs by design have also shifted to a style where they go to the net and actively try to direct a lot of traffic towards it. Berube has repeatedly specifically instilled in them to play north south and get away from the overpassing and cute plays.

 

[tuckerintensity]

Benoit in the post game presser was classic...

Reporter: Is this the biggest goal of your career?

Benoit: I don't score any goals so I think so...

His interview was so good, what a beauty.

 

[colchar]

Why not mention hockey? Oh, yeah - the only team that ever came back from down 3-0 in the Cup finals was Toronto.

They aren't in the Cup final and three other teams have done it.

 

[tuckerintensity]

Patches in for Robertson, who I don't dislike, was a revelation. I mean, maybe it's because Domi has a spark after that OT winner, but that line looked a million times more effective with Pacioretty on the wing. Even in the brief moments Holmberg was there and Patches was up with JT and Willy it looked good. I just think it's not the right mix with Robertson on the line.

 

[colchar]

Aside from that, the Leafs have an expected-goals-for of like 61% when the score is tied or one goal difference.

Any stat based on something that is 'expected' is proof of how stupid these allegedly advanced stats are.

'Expected' means sweet f**k all. What actually happens matters, what is 'expected' to happen is meaningless.