Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign Simmonds to a 2 year extension (900k AAV)

[Stephen]

Thornton should not have skated away. He's a big guy and he's not doing much else out there on the ice anyways.

Matthews needs to think about whether or not it's worth it for him to risk taking himself out of the game for 2-5 minutes, or even out of the series with a hand injury.

He's got way way way too much to offer by staying in the game. We don't need another Kadri or a Clarkson move, especially from our best player.

For sure, Marner was the much bigger issue for us this year. AM's game and physicality moved forward, even if he didn't get much to show for it.

While I acknowledge that it's a lot easier for a fan sitting on the sidelines to say a player should go through the wall for his team or do X, Y, Z, than it is to actually do it on the ice, I think your comments completely the point of what competition is supposed to look like.

If a player is constantly running mental cost benefit calculations of whether they should risk themselves in certain moments of the game or self preserve and live to fight another day because they are such a precious talent, it becomes very clear very quickly that it's never worth it to take on any risk whatsoever.

The logic goes, why go in the corner or block the shot, or absorb the hit to eat the puck or make the diving poke check or stick up for a teammate or any of the rough and tumble aspects of the game? Just launch the puck into the stands, take a delay of game and worry about it later. All the other hard stuff? That should be someone else's job. Someone beneath you.

The outcome is you stay spotless and you can play healthier than maybe you would have, but it makes you easier to play against, easier to intimidate and push out of the game and ruins team cohesion. Our top guys are supremely talented but I don't think there's a level of talent that you can have where you don't get your hands dirty sometimes. Opponents know this. They lean on the Leafs a little and they crumple up.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Simmonds for G.M

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[The CyNick]

Player was ineffective outside a short period in the regular season.

I had been critical of relying on these vets to infuse toughness into the lineup. Guys playing 8 minutes a night don't make an impact. You need the core players to be tough. They are weak, therefore they will never make the Leafs great again.

 

[sxvnert]

AND they gave him a full NTC

So much for that "they can just bury him" narrative.

 

[Brobust]

AND they gave him a full NTC

So much for that "they can just bury him" narrative.

NTCs and waivers aren't related in any way.

 

[Budz]

He needs to be a 4th liner.

 

[ACC1224]

AND they gave him a full NTC

So much for that "they can just bury him" narrative.

What's so funny?

 

[francis246]

AND they gave him a full NTC

So much for that "they can just bury him" narrative.

You can bury an NTC... you can’t bury a NMC. They are different.

 

[Menzinger]

You can bury an NTC... you can’t bury a NMC. They are different.

It's also not even a full NTC anyways

 

[The Best Leafs Ever]

AND they gave him a full NTC

So much for that "they can just bury him" narrative.

It's NTC (no trade clause) not NMC (non moving clause). We can send him to the AHL if there's a need and he can be claimed on waivers as well.

 

[hamzarocks]

It's also not even a full NTC anyways

Year 1 it's a full NTC but he can be sent to minors

Now I doubt it ever comes to that. He either provides some sort of value in his role, or loses his spot and becomes a healthy scratch/potential plug in in case of injuries. If we are trying to send him to minors he probably agrees to waive his NTC to any team just to not have to be in the AHL at a stage where he's cup chasing (though he chose the leafs which sadly hurts his chances of getting that cup)

Simmonds owes us 15 goals next year and a few in the playoffs.

He owes us being harder in the puck and forechecking with purpose rather than trying to carry pucks in and play a possession/puck holding game.

This dude needs to deliver.

 

[francis246]

Year 1 it's a full NTC but he can be sent to minors

Now I doubt it ever comes to that. He either provides some sort of value in his role, or loses his spot and becomes a healthy scratch/potential plug in in case of injuries. If we are trying to send him to minors he probably agrees to waive his NTC to any team just to not have to be in the AHL at a stage where he's cup chasing (though he chose the leafs which sadly hurts his chances of getting that cup)

Simmonds owes us 15 goals next year and a few in the playoffs.

He owes us being harder in the puck and forechecking with purpose rather than trying to carry pucks in and play a possession/puck holding game.

This dude needs to deliver.

Idk why you have such a hard on for demanding so much from Simmonds. His job isn’t to score goals, his job is simple. Create space for the other players to do their job, forecheck hard and be a net front presence on the PP. we don’t need him to score 15 goals: we need him to play hard every night and be a pain in the ass. Be what Corey Perry was for Montreal

 

[ShaneFalco]

Year 1 it's a full NTC but he can be sent to minors

Now I doubt it ever comes to that. He either provides some sort of value in his role, or loses his spot and becomes a healthy scratch/potential plug in in case of injuries. If we are trying to send him to minors he probably agrees to waive his NTC to any team just to not have to be in the AHL at a stage where he's cup chasing (though he chose the leafs which sadly hurts his chances of getting that cup)

Simmonds owes us 15 goals next year and a few in the playoffs.

He owes us being harder in the puck and forechecking with purpose rather than trying to carry pucks in and play a possession/puck holding game.

This dude needs to deliver.

Thing is he'll play regardless

 

[hamzarocks]

Idk why you have such a hard on for demanding so much from Simmonds. His job isn’t to score goals, his job is simple. Create space for the other players to do their job, forecheck hard and be a net front presence on the PP. we don’t need him to score 15 goals: we need him to play hard every night and be a pain in the ass. Be what Corey Perry was for Montreal

Perry had 9 goals in 49 games which is a 15 in 82 goal pace.

He had 21 pts in 49 games which is a 35 point pace

Simmonds has to produce. Being a net front presence on the PP works if he's contributing. He has to score his goals and get offensive for the team. He can't just be trying to stand in front of goalies and not be able to provide any offense

 

[francis246]

Perry had 9 goals in 49 games which is a 15 in 82 goal pace.

He had 21 pts in 49 games which is a 35 point pace

Simmonds has to produce. Being a net front presence on the PP works if he's contributing. He has to score his goals and get offensive for the team. He can't just be trying to stand in front of goalies and not be able to provide any offense

I disagree whole heartedly.

 

[Stonehands1990]

AND they gave him a full NTC

So much for that "they can just bury him" narrative.

It’s crazy how fans don’t know how basic clauses work