Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign D Simon Benoit (1 year, $775k)

[notbias]

Best 6th dman in the NHL. I absolutely love that the fancy stats community hate him.

"Fancy stats"

He just gets scored on a lot and adds no offense... it is counting, some people can't do it apparently and are scared of it.

He's not close to the best 6th D, and a random hit doesn't change that, sorry.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Great contract - love the guy

Yeah he's the sort of heart and soul guy this team has been in such dire need of for years.

If only we could get someone with that AND some real talent in one package. Hopefully Knies keeps improving and maybe he's the guy.

 

[keonsbitterness]

"Fancy stats"

He just gets scored on a lot and adds no offense... it is counting, some people can't do it apparently and are scared of it.

He's not close to the best 6th D, and a random hit doesn't change that, sorry.

I bet you cheer for the villain in Batman movies.

 

[notbias]

I bet you cheer for the villain in Batman movies.

Makes sense you bring up fiction, there is no reality where Benoit is playing great.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Makes sense you bring up fiction, there is no reality where Benoit is playing great.

That is absolutely absurd, please tell me this isn't based on some bullshit fancy stats? Because anyone with a working pair of eyes would see otherwise

 

[notbias]

That is absolutely absurd, please tell me this isn't based on some bullshit fancy stats? Because anyone with a working pair of eyes would see otherwise

Why do you all hate counting? I don't understand why people call anything that isn't points fancy stats.

It is based on him not helping his team score much and getting scored on.

 

[weems]

Why do you all hate counting? I don't understand why people call anything that isn't points fancy stats.

It is based on him not helping his team score much and getting scored on.

What are your thoughts on this tweet?

 

[notbias]

What are your thoughts on this tweet?

He is not helping his team win...

 

[weems]

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He is not helping his team win...

Well one of the most public stats guys says differently.

 

[notbias]

Well one of the most public stats guys says differently.

Cool, well, in reality, he has been the worst D when it comes to helping them win...

 

[weems]

Cool, well, in reality, he has been the worst D when it comes to helping them win...

I thought Dom was some hugely respected voice amongst the stats community?

 

[Apex Predator]

Advanced stats can be skewed to agree with your point of view. This is proof of 2 different advance stats saying Benoit is good and bad. Advanced stats are not to be used the same way they are in baseball.

 

[notbias]

I thought Dom was some hugely respected voice amongst the stats community?

I don't follow specific stats guys and take their opinion as gospel, it is weird that you do.

Advanced stats can be skewed to agree with your point of view. This is proof of 2 different advance stats saying Benoit is good and bad. Advanced stats are not to be used the same way they are in baseball.

Goal % is not advanced stats... it is saying when he is on the ice, they lose more than they win, it is very simple.

 

[weems]

I don't follow specific stats guys and take their opinion as gospel, it is weird that you do.

Dude this guys Gamescores are literally posted in all our post game threads.

I disagree with many of these stats or the lack of context applied routinely.

 

[notbias]

Dude this guys Gamescores are literally posted in all our post game threads.

I disagree with many of these stats or the lack of context applied routinely.

Cool, I've posted 0 of those, Benoit is fine as a #6, but people go crazy over a player who hurts his team, not helps his team, when he is on the ice.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Goal % is not advanced stats... it is saying when he is on the ice, they lose more than they win, it is very simple.

When you say win, what do you mean exactly?

Board battles. 50/50 pucks, what is it?

And isn't it the case that any team with their 3rd pairing, especially when they're getting about 60% dzs?

 

[notbias]

When you say win, what do you mean exactly?

Board battles. 50/50 pucks, what is it?

And isn't it the case that any team with their 3rd pairing, especially when they're getting about 60% dzs?

When he is on the ice, they are getting scored on more than scoring, that is how teams win/lose.

 

[Apex Predator]

When you say win, what do you mean exactly?

Board battles. 50/50 pucks, what is it?

And isn't it the case that any team with their 3rd pairing, especially when they're getting about 60% dzs?

They don’t want to see the leafs have any success. Tears down every Treliving player. It’s such an odd stand they have.

 

[Rare Jewel]

When he is on the ice, they are getting scored on more than scoring, that is how teams win/lose.

Well, no shit. He's in a defensive role and starts 60% in Dzone.

Carlo, for example, is about 50% and comparatively, his numbers are worse.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

I love Benny, guy seems like the biggest f***in beauty and everyone raves about how hard he works.

True NHL player right there.

 

[Rare Jewel]

They don’t want to see the leafs have any success. Tears down every Treliving player. It’s such an odd stand they have.

Ironic, for someone named "notbias"

But to fair, I'm not the biggest Treliving guy either, but the utter simplification and lack of context is certainly a choice.

 

[Apex Predator]

Ironic, for someone named "notbias"

But to fair, I'm not the biggest Treliving guy either, but the utter simplification and lack of context is certainly a choice.

The difference between you and them
Is that you are not tearing down every single player. Throwing stat after stat to try and prove they are bad. What is the expectation of a 6th dman? Feels like they want Cale Makar level player.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Benoit is 2nd best on the team in GA/60 (best for xGA/60). He is last in offensive zone starts and the team is shooting 6.7% when he's on the ice (dead last among D, next closest is 9.9%), so that's why Leafs aren't scoring many goals when he's on the ice.

He's doing a great job as a #6 D making peanuts.

 

[MSZ]

Ironic, for someone named "notbias"

But to fair, I'm not the biggest Treliving guy either, but the utter simplification and lack of context is certainly a choice.

BT has made some dumb moves, but his team already has been a lot more successful in the playoffs than any of the Dubas teams.

 

[djdev]

i dont think hes been a revelation or anything but to suggest hes hurt the team as a 6th dman is absurd imo.

we literally might have been watching the sens play the panthers this round without his game 2 and 3 heroics in the first round.

hes a 6th dman..he makes mistakes, but he lays the body and doesnt take big risks and is an effective player, cant really ask for a better outcome given the expectations of him so far as a leaf.