Proposal: Leafs-Oilers

[Magic Man]

I'm a bit surprised Simmer hasn't been claimed yet. He can't be that much worse than Ryan Reaves.

The Leafs are very soft. They don't need to dump him in trade if he doesn't add value to it.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Notice how the knights weren't in a position where the contract limit was preventing them from signing a backup goalie? You know, the thing that the leafs were almost at risk of?

right, so they waived a player they knew would be taken and gave up nothing instead of trading a player they know would be taken on waivers for nothing.

Really had us over a barrel.

 

[Prairie Habs]

right, so they waived a player they knew would be taken and gave up nothing instead of trading a player they know would be taken on waivers for nothing.

Really had us over a barrel.

Aube-kubel was waived and claimed before the leafs goalie was injured and the needed to make their emergency goalie signing. So again, just because you don't understand what's happening doesn't make it irrelevant.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

you're paying a 3rd for us taking Simmonds off your hands and the fact Engvall is pending UFA as opposed to an RFA. Engvall and Puljujarvi are pretty much a wash right now, but we need the RH much more than another mediocre LW.

Want to explain why we would need to pay anything at all for Simmonds to "be taken off our hands" when his entire cap hit can be buried in the AHL?

 

[biturbo19]

I think Engvall has a lot more "utility" as a bottom-6er. But for Edmonton, i can see why they probably see more usefulness out of Puljujarvi if he can get back to at least vaguely producing as a Top-6 coattail rider, where he's probably a better fit for them than Engvall would be.

But for the Leafs, Engvall seems more useful as a defensive presence, PKer, etc. People need to stop acting like Puljujarvi is suddenly going to have a growth spurt in his hockey brain and morph into something he isn't. He's a big, straight line player who plays the game with his head down, blinders on, and very little real awareness or vision on the ice. That's not changing at this point.


Seems like a swap that doesn't really do much for either team. Both probably better off keeping "their guy" and just rolling with the frustrations, unless they can add something to get a bona fide upgrade in that spot/role.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

you're paying a 3rd for us taking Simmonds off your hands and the fact Engvall is pending UFA as opposed to an RFA. Engvall and Puljujarvi are pretty much a wash right now, but we need the RH much more than another mediocre LW.

Simmonds can be completely buried with no cap penalty.

What's the incentive for Edmonton? The 3rd doesn't cut it to take on Simmonds and as much as I despise Puljujarvi(and his supporters) he's better than Engvall

Simmonds is completely buriable with no cap penalty. He doesn't need to be taken. A little research helps before you make ill informed claims.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Aube-kubel was waived and claimed before the leafs goalie was injured and the needed to make their emergency goalie signing. So again, just because you don't understand what's happening doesn't make it irrelevant.

Right, so if a team wanted Aube-Kubel but didnt want to get him for free they would risk telling the leafs no! Give us a pick! and the leafs would wave him anyways and continue on with their day with an emergency backup, somebody on waivers takes him and then the issue is resolved the same way.

 

[ER89]

Nah the Oilers can sign engvall next year for four million and then be convinced he's there third line saviour.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Nah the Oilers can sign engvall next year for four million and then be convinced he's there third line saviour.

The Oilers do love their ex leafs.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Nah the Oilers can sign engvall next year for four million and then be convinced he's there third line saviour.

The Oilers do love their ex leafs.

I called Mikheyev to the Canucks super early based on the Kapanen trade and I feel pretty strong they will go after Engvall as well.

 

[RipsADrive]

Delete.

Wrong thread.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I called Mikheyev to the Canucks super early based on the Kapanen trade and I feel pretty strong they will go after Engvall as well.

I wouldnt doubt it in the least.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

I wouldnt doubt it in the least.

Rutherford loves the style of player, big fast and leaves you wanting a ton more haha.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Rutherford loves the style of player, big fast and leaves you wanting a ton more haha.

I'm convinced now he will be a Canuck.

 

[Homesick]

Simmonds can be completely buried with no cap penalty.


Simmonds is completely buriable with no cap penalty. He doesn't need to be taken. A little research helps before you make ill informed claims.

Then why include him? Why do the Oilers want to pay him to play in the minors and take development time away from their prospects?
A little common sense goes a long way

 

[ManofSteel55]

Funny that it's the 3rd rounder that is prompting me to say no here.

Funny that the 3rd rounder is the only thing making me think that Edmonton should say yes, ha ha.

 

[Yorkshire Leaf]

This trade proposal smells of someone looking at the Leafs/Oilers boards and seeing who people are moaning about the most and chucking them into a trade proposal Add in the random pick generator and away you go.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Then why include him? Why do the Oilers want to pay him to play in the minors and take development time away from their prospects?
A little common sense goes a long way

There is a topic on the main board asking how to make the Oilers tougher to play against. It's not rocket science, use that brain and put it together.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I don't agree, we still have Clifford we can call up if needed as well.

clifford is cooked. he's basically the turkey in Christmas Vacation

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Simmonds can be completely buried with no cap penalty.


Simmonds is completely buriable with no cap penalty. He doesn't need to be taken. A little research helps before you make ill informed claims.

but the OP's proposal *does* have us taking him. That doesn't happen for free. If you don't like it that's fine, but as per the OP, Edmonton would be taking Simmonds and nobody's doing that for nothing, as evidenced by the fact that he's been on waivers twice and no takers.

There is a topic on the main board asking how to make the Oilers tougher to play against. It's not rocket science, use that brain and put it together.

if Edmonton wanted Simmonds, they have had two opportunities this year to pick him up for nothing. They haven't. So clearly Toronto would have to pay us something to do so. I don't think Dubas and Holland like each other much anyway, after the attempted Hyman rights fleecing.

 

[BergyWho37]

I believe Oilers want toughness just not sure Simmonds is the guy they’d target and if they didn’t mind taking him they’d want to move a contract out to get him.

 

[AvroArrow]

No thanks, Pulju is a project. An up and coming team should maybe look at targeting him, he doesn't help the Leafs. Say what you will about Giraffe not hitting, but he's very important to our bottom 6 and PK unit.

 

[SwedishFire]

Awful tradepartners.
Two teams with the exact same condtruction of a team
Offensive heavy, with a big need of help and support on the D line to becoming a serious contender. Neither would want to trade their impact D for anything the other team have.

Leafs got Liljegren, Oilers have Broberc. They could swap if they wsnted to, biut it fills no need.
I f
Dont want anything of Simmonds, and Leags doesnt want puljujärvi.
Why even bother.

I could be interrested in Sandin, but I doubt Leafs would like to deal him.
I would open up for Sandin + 2nd rounder for Broberg swap.
Broberg has a high draft pedigree, and a estimated higher potential, therefor that price. I already know leaf fans says no.

So, none of each teams fans should bother any suggestion.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Awful tradepartners.
Two teams with the exact same condtruction of a team
Offensive heavy, with a big need of help and support on the D line to becoming a serious contender. Neither would want to trade their impact D for anything the other team have.

Leafs got Liljegren, Oilers have Broberc. They could swap if they wsnted to, biut it fills no need.
I f
Dont want anything of Simmonds, and Leags doesnt want puljujärvi.
Why even bother.

I could be interrested in Sandin, but I doubt Leafs would like to deal him.
I would open up for Sandin + 2nd rounder for Broberg swap.
Broberg has a high draft pedigree, and a estimated higher potential, therefor that price. I already know leaf fans says no.

So, none of each teams fans should bother any suggestion.

Broberg has done nothing to be worth more then Sandin and Liljegren is a top 4 right now and could become a fantastic number two or even a number 1. Leafs are a top 5 defensive team and look better overall then they have in 6 years even with the injuries to our top 3 D and Matthews not hitting his stride yet. We also have Robertson who looks really good, just needs more strength, Holmberg who is playing 3c quite well as a rookie and Knies at year end.

 

[SwedishFire]

Yed

Broberg has done nothing to be worth more then Sandin and Liljegren is a top 4 right now and could become a fantastic number two or even a number 1. Leafs are a top 5 defensive team and look better overall then they have in 6 years even with the injuries to our top 3 D and Matthews not hitting his stride yet. We also have Robertson who looks really good, just needs more strength, Holmberg who is playing 3c quite well as a rookie and Knies at year end.

Yes, Dubas got it faster than Holland. He has changed direction, adapted quicker than Holland.

Holland starts to be a Jeopardy answer


Forwards is Ok! not defense! But anyway he is scanning the market for a forward. Again. While having the vision of Broberg as the savior. And has promised to keep 1sts, and all prospects even if he cant develope his drafted prospects to regular NHLers. In a Cup window with superstars in their primes, in win NOW mode. With defense bleading. Why??

BLING!
- What is Ken Holland.